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  1. Lawrence Cunningham says:

    Great research. Congratulations on the NYT coverage. It’s cute how the paper says the piece is being published on the SSRN. William & Mary Law Review will actually publish it. This shows how the concept of publishing is changing.

  2. Ken Rhodes says:

    I second Professor Cunningham’s compliment. I look forward to reading the article in the December issue, but I am concerned about something implicit in the post here. Perhaps you could clarify this:

    “Refugees” are here in this country under some sort of “permission” from our government, be it a passport from their homeland with an appropriate visa, or be it some other sort of document. They had to know something, and to have done something, to gain access to our country.

    How does it happen in a large number of cases that those same refugees are not aware of the other aspects of their tenure here, and that they are perhaps eligible for the status of “asylum” in our country.

    I would not be at all surprised to learn that a large number of illegal immigrants are here working without proper documents and have no idea. On the other hand, it seems far-fetched to me that most “refugees,” who presumably (a) did NOT gain their initial entry illegally, and (b) did not simply walk across the border undetected, would have gotten here and gained admittance without knowing anything about how our system works, even to the simple extent of how to find assistance.

    And yet, that seems to be the case, according to the data on such a large number of late (or non-existent) applications for asylum. How does this happen?

  3. Matt Lister says:

    Ken- Jaya may want to add to this, but in my experience a few factors are at play. First, a fair number of people with at least legitimate and often quite strong asylum claims enter the country irregularly- sometimes crossing the southern (and sometimes norther) border somewhere other than a road, and sometimes on papers that are not their own. (The reasons for this are various.) Secondly, a large number of people with plausible to strong asylum claims enter the US regularly, but still have no idea how the system works- they may speak little English, know no one, etc. They are not given this information by anyone. False information is quite common. (I’ve met fairly well educated people from Eastern Europe who think that if you enter the U.S. on a tourist visa and live here for 5 years, you are then fine, for example.) So, in addition to the sort of cases Jaya mentions, there are lots of others where the person in question has at least a plausible asylum claim and just didn’t know that anything could be done, let alone what to do.

    I don’t think that a time-limit of some sort is in principle unreasonable. (It’s worth pointing out that the one-year bar was a _huge_ improvement over the original proposals in the 1996 legislation, which at first had very short time limits- a few weeks, I think, or on some proposals, immediately upon entering.) The worry, though, is that there are so many different sorts of legitimate exceptions that it’s not clear to me that the mixture of a bar plus exceptions can be applied in a fair and principled way. Perhaps it could be with a longer time limit, though I’m not sure. But, I’m certainly looking forward to reading the paper.

  4. Jaya Ramji-Nogales says:

    Thanks for your comment, Ken, and your response, Matt. The study (which you can read now on SSRN) details the multiple barriers to information about the asylum process for those who enter lawfully (and I agree with Matt’s point that many genuine refugees enter without authorization; even the UN Refugee Convention recognizes this point).

    But here’s perhaps a helpful way to think about it — presumably you have traveled to Europe or to another country for which you need a visa. Do you have any idea how the asylum process works in those countries? Would you know where to turn for assistance? My first point, then, is that information about obtaining a visa is very different from information about the asylum system, which is not nearly as widely accessible and can be quite complicated. While some refugees are well educated and speak English, many have little familiarity with the law and functional legal processes and it may take some time before they’re able to navigate the system (needing first to concern themselves with finding food, shelter, etc.).

    Moreover, for many genuine refugees, their experience with government officials is that of repression, abuse, and torture, so it takes quite a mental adjustment (particularly for those suffering conditions such as post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of torture) to understand that government officials in the United States may be willing to assist them to remain here.

    The problem is even more pronounced for asylum seekers with non-traditional claims. Say that you are a gay man in Serbia. You have been ridiculed, harassed, and beaten your entire life for being gay. You flee to the United States because you’ve heard that you can be openly gay here — but would you have any idea that your mistreatment in Serbia could be grounds for you to remain in the US? That requires a fairly sophisticated understanding of the law of asylum, and the expectation that genuine refugees will be able to overcome all of these hurdles within a year of entry is simply not realistic.

    Matt — I look forward to hearing your thoughts on the study and our recommendations. While there may be reasons to be skeptical of late asylum claims, those concerns could be included in the asylum determination without requiring this procedural bar, the mandatory application of which is quite costly to the system (not to mention to genuine refugees).

  5. Matt Lister says:

    Hi Jaya,
    I might not have been clear in the last bit I wrote (when I read it again my point didn’t seem very clearly put to me, at least.) What I’d meant to say was that because I think a “strict” time bar with a lot of exceptions probably can’t be well administered, that having no strict time bar might be the better option. My only worry about that would be whether that, too, might give too much discretion immigration officials, too. Still, it seems more likely to me to be the better option (the no time bar one), but I’m sure I’ll have a more informed opinion after reading your paper.

  6. Veracitor says:

    Good public policy demands fairly strict and fairly short deadlines on making an asylum claim.

    If there is no deadline, an illegal immigrant will not make an asylum claim until s/he is apprehended, at which time the evidence supporting the claim will be stale at best or fabricated at worst. The longer a putative asylum-seeker has been in the US, the more likely her friends have coached her to make a phony asylum claim and the more chance she has had to fabricate or obtain false evidence to support a false claim. Long-delayed asylum claims are hard to evaluate fairly, so immigration officials are more likely to make erroneous eligibility determinations in such cases.

    Besides the avoidance of error and the discouragement of fraud, the US needs to recognize asylum claimants promptly in order to inform US foreign policy (e.g., if many refugees arrive from a certain source country, the US may wish to bring diplomatic pressure against that country) and in order to manage asylum claimants’ presence in the US effectively (e.g.g., issuing them documents, providing them aid, monitoring their behaviour).

    A year is more than enough time for even the most timid and ignorant illegal immigrant to make a legitimate claim for asylum. It is quite proper to cut off asylum claims after that– how urgent can a claim be if the claimant can forget about it for more than a year?

    All the stuff about how immigrants find it difficult to make asylum claims is nonsense. An immigrant may claim asylum from any immigration, customs, or border patrol official in the first instance, and indeed, from nearly any Federal or State police or judicial official in the second instance. Anyone can easily make an asylum claim at her port of entry, or at any international airport, seaport, land crossing, or at any of thousands of government offices in the US. Anyone afraid to go to a government office may send a representative. Once the claim is made it is easy for claimants to get legal advice and representation.

    “But they don’t know they should,” say the ‘asylum advocates.’

    Nonsense. Everyone knows they are supposed to have proper papers. Even if they are so abysmally ignorant when they arrive (get smuggled in?) that they don’t know about passports and visas and so-forth, they will find out as soon as they try to get a driver’s license, a job, public assistance, whatever. If they purchase fake documents then they are committing a crime and they know it. Every illegal immigrant finds out shortly after arrival that she is supposed to talk to the immigration authorities. When she does she may make an asylum claim.

    “But she might be arrested and offered voluntary departure!”

    Yes. Of course! Illegal immigrants should be offered voluntary departure and should be deported if they refuse, unless they claim some status which entitles them to remain in the country! Any illegal immigrant entitled to asylum may claim it as soon as she contacts authorities, which she ought to do upon arrival at the US border or inside it (e.g., airport), or as soon after that as her coyote lets her go anywhere near a government office.

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