Home | About | RSS Feed | Contact and Publicity Guidelines | Comment Policy the Law, the Universe, and Everything 


advertise-here4


Slip Opinions


Cardozo Law School's Susan Crawford battles telecom giants, per NYT here.  (LAC)

University governance as a new topic of public discussion.

An unusual profile of Mary Anne Franks (kw)

Aggressive copyright litigation run amok. (fp)

USA Today's Matt Krantz quoting me on Warren Buffett joining Twitter.  (LAC)

Private prisons? Why, sure! What could possibly go wrong? (kw)

TNR profiles Susan Crawford (kw)

Berkshire Hathaway is bigger than Warren Buffett.  Manual of Ideas (LAC).

Guns don't shoot people, kitchen appliances shoot people (kw)

Via Glom, Sat Eve Post review of The Essays of Warren Buffett.


Our Podcast

Subscribe to Law Talk


  • Posts by Author

  • Categories

  • Archives


  • Recent Comments


    • Larry Sheldon on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Matt on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Personal Injury Lawyer on Privacy Self-Management and the Consent Dilemma

    • Lawrence Cunningham on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board

    • Guy Spier on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board

    • John Mihaljevic on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board

    • Kal on Towards Responsible Use of Cognition-Dulling Drugs

    • anon on The Pervasive Role of Priors: Part One

    • Joe on Kentucky: Boy, 5, Kills Sister, 2

    • mls on Copyright’s Constitutional Chameleon

    • Shag from Brookline on Kentucky: Boy, 5, Kills Sister, 2

    • Brett Bellmore on Kentucky: Boy, 5, Kills Sister, 2

    • Daniel Barth-Jones on Re-Identification Risks and Myths, Superusers and Super Stories (Part II: Superusers and Super Stories)

    • Daniel Barth-Jones on Re-Identification Risks and Myths, Superusers and Super Stories (Part I: Risks and Myths)

    • Daniel Barth-Jones on Re-Identification Risks and Myths, Superusers and Super Stories (Part II: Superusers and Super Stories)
  •  

    Site Meter

    About the Blog

    Concurring Opinions is a multiple authored, general interest legal blog.

    (Image: Wikicommons)

Ranking law journals: a view from abroad

posted by John Ip

Let me offer an Antipodean perspective on the vexed issue of the ranking of law journals, and how this might affect scholarly behaviour. Legal scholars in New Zealand are to some extent pulled in different directions. There is a perceived obligation to service the New Zealand market by writing about legal issues of relevance to New Zealand lawyers. At the same time, publishing in international journals is generally considered to be more prestigious, with the placement of an article in an esteemed journal from the United Kingdom (such as the Law Quarterly Review) traditionally being considered ideal. Placement of articles in the United States, to my knowledge, has been rare.

Writing as I do in the area of comparative counterterrorism law, I have dipped my toes in the somewhat strange – at least to my eyes – world of American law reviews (more on that later). But might I be better off trying to place articles in UK or Australian journals? Is it possible to compare the quality of law journals across different jurisdictions? The Australian Research Council (ARC) has attempted just this rather imposing task. Predictably, the release of the draft rankings last year sparked controversy. As detailed in this story, well regarded Australian law journals such as the Sydney Law Journal and Melbourne University Law Review received B grades. Top UK Journals, such as the Modern Law Review and the Oxford Journal of Legal Studies likewise received B’s. The Cambridge Law Journal and Criminal Law Review got only C’s. What journals occupied the hallowed stratosphere of the top grade, A*? American law journals such as the Harvard Law Review, Yale Law Journal and Connecticut Law Review.


While the grading exercise was of course conducted according to certain criteria, one has to be a little suspicious of the outcome, in the same way that one would doubt the result of a statistical analysis of NBA shooting guards that resulted in Michael Jordan being the 35th best ever. In what seem to be an updated list of grades, something approaching normal service has resumed: Harvard and Yale remain the same, but the Connecticut Law Review has been downgraded to a B; all the top UK journals mentioned earlier are now A* publications. That said, one can still look through the list and engage in the following exercise: “I can’t believe that [fill-in-the-blank] journal received a [fill-in-the-blank] grade!”

As far as a non-Australian academic is concerned, the response might simply be, “So what?” After all, Australia is a whole other country (sometimes referred to in New Zealand as “the West Island”). But I think the ARC rankings have an effect merely by existing. Which UK journal outside of the usual suspects should I submit an article to? Or should I submit to a second tier American journal? I probably would consult the ARC rankings. Similarly, when a promotion or hiring committee is wanting to get a quick snapshot of the quality of a scholar’s output, it’s not hard to imagine the ARC rankings being consulted in that situation either.



 September 8, 2009 at 6:19 pm   Posted in: Uncategorized   Print This Post Print This Post

Responses (3)

  1. Daniel Solove - September 8, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Interesting list and rankings. I wasn’t aware of this, and it’s fascinating to learn how Australians view US law review reputations.

    Among US law reviews, I’d say the list would match what most legal academics in the US would think about 75-80% of the time, but there are some really odd anomalies in the list. Moreover, the gradation scale of A* through C is probably not stratified enough.

  2. injury lawyers Perth - September 8, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    Agreed, without knowing the full criteria being judged it is hard to acknowledge or criticise the grades.

    I also agree with the previous comment that grading A through to C doesn’t give a lot of room for scope.

    There may be use for a grading system but I think there is much work to be done before it is accepted as authoritative.

  3. Julie Clarke - January 4, 2010 at 10:53 pm

    The ARC rankings are a disgrace. The majority of A+ and A journals are international (are they encouraging us to avoid consideration of Australian domestic legal policy issues in favour of assessing issues with foreign law and policy?)and generalist journals.

    Some disciplines fair better than others for no obvious reasons. Professional journals are generally downgraded to B and C with the result that if you want your research to reach those with the power to influence in your field (ie, if you want to have a genuine social impact) then you really should be publishing in a B or C-ranked journal (the C’s contain very highly regarded professional journals as well as some dodgy newsletters) but if you want to keep your job or stand a chance at promotion you’re better off publishing in a generalist student-run journal university journal unlikely to be read by your peers in your field.

    On top of all that some journals simply aren’t ranked at all – new journals and international discipline specific journals that the creators of the list somehow managed to miss, simply gain you no credit at all.

    And the bar keeps changing – there have already been a couple of different list and publications produced before any ranking system existed are being retrospectively upgraded or (more commonly) downgraded – academics widely considered skilled and active researchers are in some cases being re-classified as ‘research inactive’ because publications they produced prior to the existence of the journal ranking system have now been classified as ‘C’ and effectively do not count at all.

    We can only hope that enough institutions fight back to get the issue on the political agenda in Australia – the current system will re-focus research offshore (to the detriment of Australian domestic legal issues), cause massive delays for publication in A and B ranked journals as more academics fight to publish there and will see the utter collapse of many (currently valuable) professional journals due to poor classification. Drastic change is required.

Leave a Reply

Spam protection by WP Captcha-Free


  • « Previous post
  • Next post »

Authors

Daniel J. Solove
Kaimipono Wenger
Dave Hoffman
Frank Pasquale
Deven Desai
Danielle Citron
Lawrence Cunningham
Sarah Waldeck
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Solangel Maldonado
Gerard Magliocca

Guests

Kelli A. Alces
Taunya Lovell Banks
Ryan Calo
Claire Hill
Jay Kesten
William McGeveran
Meredith Render
Aaron Saiger
David L. Schwartz
Olivier Sylvain
Charles K. Whitehead
Aaron Zelinsky


















Previous Guests

Michael Abramowicz
Michelle Adams
Robert Ahdieh
Marvin Ammori
Michelle Anderson
Laura Appleman
Derek Bambauer
Taunya Lovell Banks
Ann Bartow
Steven Bellovin
Adam Benforado
Gaia Bernstein
Francesca Bignami
Josh Blackman
Joseph Blocher
Jeremy Blumenthal
Kathleen Boozang
Bruce Boyden
Donald Braman
Khiara Bridges
Al Brophy
Neil H. Buchanan
Bill Burke-White
Scott Burris
Paul Butler
Ryan Calo
Naomi Cahn
Anupam Chander
Miriam Cherry
Jack Chin
Glenn Cohen
Gabriella Coleman
Jennifer Collins
Caroline Mala Corbin
Thomas Crocker
andré douglas pond cummings
Allison Danner
Laura DeNardis
Brannon Denning
Deven Desai
Mike Dimino
Mark Edwards
Maxine Eichner
Jessica Erickson
David Fagundes
Lisa Fairfax
Joshua Fairfield
Christine Haight Farley
Kim Ferzan
Dan Filler
Mary Anne Franks
Susan Freiwald
Michael Froomkin
Amanda Frost
Brian Frye
Timothy Glynn
Rachel Godsil
Eric Goldman
Kyle Graham
David Gray
Craig Green
Tristin Green
Jonathan Hafetz
Vivian E. Hamilton
Meredith Harbach
Michelle Harner
Angela Harris
Jeffrey Harrison
Hosea Harvey
Erica Hashimoto
Jennifer Hendricks
Carissa Hessick
Laura Heymann
Robert Hillman
Gilbert A. Holmes
Nicole Huberfeld
Christine Hurt
Darian Ibrahim
Sherrilyn Ifill
John Ip
Shavar Jeffries
Kevin Johnson
Kristin Johnson
Jeff Jonas
Courtney Joslin
Dan Kahan
Jeffrey Kahn
Brian Kalt
Sam Kamin
Michael Kang
Chimène Keitner
Alicia Kelly
Orin Kerr
Nancy Kim
Heidi Kitrosser
Adam Kolber
Russell Korobkin
Alex Kreit
Anita S. Krishnakumar
Susan Kuo
Greg Lastowka
Sarah Lawsky
Youngjae Lee
Margaret Lewis
Erik Lillquist
Jeff Lipshaw
Jonathan Lipson
Jacqueline Lipton
Matthew Lister
Joseph Liu
Michael Madison
Tayyab Mahmud
Kevin Noble Maillard
Solangel Maldonado
Jason Mazzone
Linda McClain
William McGeveran
Salil Mehra
Carrie Menkel-Meadow
Max Minzner
Viva Moffat
Scott Moss
Eric Muller
Janai Nelson
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Helen Norton
Elizabeth Nowicki
Paul Ohm
Angela Onwuachi-Willing
David Opderback
David Orentlicher
Michael O'Shea
Kristen Osenga
Mary-Rose Papandrea
Rafael Pardo
Marcy Peek
Eduardo Peñalver
Robert Percival
Michael J. Pitts
Marc Poirier
David Post
Amanda Pustilnik
Shruti Rana
Geoffrey Rapp
William Reynolds
Neil Richards
Lori Ringhand
Alice Ristroph
Marc Roark
Brishen Rogers
Sasha Romanosky
Tuan Samahon
Susan Scafidi
David Schleicher
David Schraub
Paul Secunda
Lea Shaver
Jonathan Siegel
Jessica Silbey
Peter Smith
Judd Sneirson
Adam Steinman
Charles Sullivan
Rick Swedloff
Peter Swire
Olivier Sylvain
Steph Tai
Andrew Taslitz
Robert Tsai
Jenia Turner
Joseph Turow
Steve Vladeck
Ari Waldman
Spencer Weber Waller
Howard Wasserman
Melissa Waters
Elizabeth A. Wilson
Frank Wu
Alfred Yen
Corey Yung
David Zaring
Timothy Zick
Michael Zimmer
Jonathan Zittrain

Ownership

Concurring Opinions is a
general-interest legal blog
operated by Concurring
Opinions LLC, a Pennsylvania
Limited Liability Corporation.

Blogroll

Above the Law
Access to Justice
ACS Blog
Althouse
Balkinization
Becker-Posner Blog
BlackProf
BoingBoing
Chicago Law Faculty Blog
Conglomerate
CrimLaw
Crime & Federalism
CrimProf Blog
Crooked Timber
Derechoalderecho
Discourse.net
Dorf on Law
Election Law
Emergent Chaos
The Faculty Lounge
Feminist Law Profs
43(B)log
Freakonomics Blog
Freedom to Tinker
Google Blogoscoped
How Appealing
Ideoblog
Info/Law
Instapundit.com
Juris Novus
Jurisdynamics
Just Books
Law and Humanities Blog
Law and Letters
Law Librarian Blog
Legal Profession Blog
Legal Theory Blog
Legal Times Blog
Leiter Reports
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
Lessig Blog
Madisonian Theory
Media Law Blog
Mirror of Justice
The Moderate Voice
National Security Advisors
Opinio Juris
Point of Law
PrawfsBlawg
Privacy and Security Training
ProfessorBainbridge.com
Property Prof Blog
Red Tape Chronicles
The Right Coast
Schneier on Security
SCOTUSBlog
Security Dilemmas
Sentencing Law and Policy
Simple Justice
Sivacracy.net
The Situationist
Susan Crawford
TalkLeft
Talking Points Memo
TaxProf Blog
TeachPrivacy Blog
Tech & Marketing Law
Truth on the Market
Volokh Conspiracy
WorkPlace Prof Blog
WSJ Law Blog
Wonkette
The Yin Blog


© Concurring Opinions

Powered by WordPress