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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Not a cough in a carload:&#8221; Images from the Tobacco Industry&#8217;s Campaign to Hide the Hazards of Smoking</title>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/12/not_a_cough_in.html/comment-page-1#comment-67554</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 05:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, everyone didn&#039;t know.

If EVERYONE KNEW then the industry wouldn&#039;t have fought the 1964 Surgeon General&#039;s report so hard, wouldn&#039;t have fought pack warning labels, wouldn&#039;t have bought fake science, wouldn&#039;t have put out &quot;scientists disagree&quot;, wouldn&#039;t have spent millions. Because if EVERYONE KNEW all that would have been a complete waste of time and money.

The fact, A.W., is that everyone didn&#039;t know.

That&#039;s why the industry did spend all that time and money. &quot;Keep doubt alive&quot;. &quot;Doubt is our product&quot;. If EVERYONE KNEW this wouldn&#039;t have worked. Since everyone didn&#039;t know, it did. Not forever, but for a few decades, 20 million deaths, and a couple trillion dollars (in today&#039;s dollars).

That&#039;s the fact.

If you want the fact, that&#039;s what happened.

If you just want to blame the customer for what the product did to him, please do keep pretending EVERYONE KNEW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, everyone didn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>If EVERYONE KNEW then the industry wouldn&#8217;t have fought the 1964 Surgeon General&#8217;s report so hard, wouldn&#8217;t have fought pack warning labels, wouldn&#8217;t have bought fake science, wouldn&#8217;t have put out &#8220;scientists disagree&#8221;, wouldn&#8217;t have spent millions. Because if EVERYONE KNEW all that would have been a complete waste of time and money.</p>
<p>The fact, A.W., is that everyone didn&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why the industry did spend all that time and money. &#8220;Keep doubt alive&#8221;. &#8220;Doubt is our product&#8221;. If EVERYONE KNEW this wouldn&#8217;t have worked. Since everyone didn&#8217;t know, it did. Not forever, but for a few decades, 20 million deaths, and a couple trillion dollars (in today&#8217;s dollars).</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the fact.</p>
<p>If you want the fact, that&#8217;s what happened.</p>
<p>If you just want to blame the customer for what the product did to him, please do keep pretending EVERYONE KNEW.</p>
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		<title>By: A.W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheesh.  Okay, here is the truth.  EVERYONE KNEW TOBACCO WAS BAD FOR YOU.  We are not infants who needed the government to tell us.  We all knew.  And this notion that &quot;gee, i had no idea&quot; is just a lawyer&#039;s invention.

Ditto with addiction.  In this context addiction means &quot;gee, i really like doing this.&quot;  Well, duh, which is why people do something they know is bad for them.

Can we stop coddling the plaintiff&#039;s bar and tell the truth?  This is just a confluence of greedy trial lawyers and nanny state liberalism.  And I am sick to death of this manufactured outrage.

And I say that as someone who doesn&#039;t smoke, who doesn&#039;t profit from smoking in any tangential way (unless you count the fact i work for a health care company).  But the fact is smokers put a gun to their own heads for years, and i am sick and tired of people pretending otherwise.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheesh.  Okay, here is the truth.  EVERYONE KNEW TOBACCO WAS BAD FOR YOU.  We are not infants who needed the government to tell us.  We all knew.  And this notion that &#8220;gee, i had no idea&#8221; is just a lawyer&#8217;s invention.</p>
<p>Ditto with addiction.  In this context addiction means &#8220;gee, i really like doing this.&#8221;  Well, duh, which is why people do something they know is bad for them.</p>
<p>Can we stop coddling the plaintiff&#8217;s bar and tell the truth?  This is just a confluence of greedy trial lawyers and nanny state liberalism.  And I am sick to death of this manufactured outrage.</p>
<p>And I say that as someone who doesn&#8217;t smoke, who doesn&#8217;t profit from smoking in any tangential way (unless you count the fact i work for a health care company).  But the fact is smokers put a gun to their own heads for years, and i am sick and tired of people pretending otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pilot episode of the show Mad Men has some enjoyable scenes recounting this. One character even jokingly notes that &quot;I know I slept better knowing that doctors smoke.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pilot episode of the show Mad Men has some enjoyable scenes recounting this. One character even jokingly notes that &#8220;I know I slept better knowing that doctors smoke.&#8221;</p>
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