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		<title>By: Quidpro</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/11/the_blawgospher.html/comment-page-1#comment-46262</link>
		<dc:creator>Quidpro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Professor Hoffman.  As one who comes from a more conservative orientation, I recognize the benefits from visiting liberal blogs.  Conversation with one&#039;s political adversaries creates space for agreement and understanding and sharpens one&#039;s own analysis.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Professor Hoffman.  As one who comes from a more conservative orientation, I recognize the benefits from visiting liberal blogs.  Conversation with one&#8217;s political adversaries creates space for agreement and understanding and sharpens one&#8217;s own analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Elefant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Elefant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read posts from about 300 different blogs several times a week to cull material for Law.com&#039;s Legal Blogwatch (www.legalblogwatch.typepad.com)  To be honest, many law professor blogs are nothing more than referrer sources that pick out a piece of information with no value added commentary.  The bloggers you identified (I would add Professor Bainbridge and Professor Berman) constantly offer great substance all the time.  There may be a larger quantity of blogs these days, but the commentary is still wanting in quality.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read posts from about 300 different blogs several times a week to cull material for Law.com&#8217;s Legal Blogwatch (www.legalblogwatch.typepad.com)  To be honest, many law professor blogs are nothing more than referrer sources that pick out a piece of information with no value added commentary.  The bloggers you identified (I would add Professor Bainbridge and Professor Berman) constantly offer great substance all the time.  There may be a larger quantity of blogs these days, but the commentary is still wanting in quality.</p>
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		<title>By: dave hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin,

Yes, I acknowledge that point in the post.  I value civility more than you, I guess, and that makes me  just as vague as some of what I&#039;m commenting about.  Also, tactics matter.  My goal was to provoke self-examination, and I think that being specific about particularly bad blogging might not be the best approach.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin,</p>
<p>Yes, I acknowledge that point in the post.  I value civility more than you, I guess, and that makes me  just as vague as some of what I&#8217;m commenting about.  Also, tactics matter.  My goal was to provoke self-examination, and I think that being specific about particularly bad blogging might not be the best approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this post makes two contestable assumptions:

1) Blogging by law profs should be about subjects they have expertise on.

2) If a more political dialogue begins, it can only be a &quot;contribution&quot; if both Democrats and Republicans are in dialogue.

As for 1--law profs and academics in general read a lot and enjoy thinking about tough issues.  Let their opinions be given free rein!

As for 2--a lot of fruitful discussion happens within a community with shared norms.  Let the liberal law profs support each other and refine their ideas among themselves.  There&#039;s a lot of work to be done within each &quot;side&quot; of cultural and economic issues in politics in talking within a common framework--rather than engaging with people of radically different values.

Finally, it&#039;s a bit ironic that a post criticizing the lack of substance in law prof political blogging fails to cite particular examples of that lack of substance.  Reminds me a bit of the horrible law prof political blogger who fails to back up opinions on facts. . . . or gets too meta.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this post makes two contestable assumptions:</p>
<p>1) Blogging by law profs should be about subjects they have expertise on.</p>
<p>2) If a more political dialogue begins, it can only be a &#8220;contribution&#8221; if both Democrats and Republicans are in dialogue.</p>
<p>As for 1&#8211;law profs and academics in general read a lot and enjoy thinking about tough issues.  Let their opinions be given free rein!</p>
<p>As for 2&#8211;a lot of fruitful discussion happens within a community with shared norms.  Let the liberal law profs support each other and refine their ideas among themselves.  There&#8217;s a lot of work to be done within each &#8220;side&#8221; of cultural and economic issues in politics in talking within a common framework&#8211;rather than engaging with people of radically different values.</p>
<p>Finally, it&#8217;s a bit ironic that a post criticizing the lack of substance in law prof political blogging fails to cite particular examples of that lack of substance.  Reminds me a bit of the horrible law prof political blogger who fails to back up opinions on facts. . . . or gets too meta.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental divide on the attitude toward voting was tested, huh!  ---so many voting for policies and change that they perceive to be their best interests!  Even those &quot;lower middle class citizens who are influenced by commercials&quot; and beautiful rhetoric,  but who were uninformed about the real issues as defined by the highly educated special interests, got out to vote! What a surprise! What a great noise they made!

Congratulations to President Obama.  &quot;To each his own&quot;  and &quot;to each his own knowledge of what serves his best interests.&quot;  This election was a demonstration that representative government in democratic republics may be possible when the populace is brought to understand how important it is to exercise the right to vote.

I was shocked and pleasantly surprised to see the turnout on election day of young voters and people of color whom  I had never seen before at our local Poll location.

Where have these people been hiding?   Did they just become of age to cast their votes or did they recently move into the neighborhood?   Of course not!  Millions of new voters  were inspired by a message of hope and a vision of a better world -- AND the opportunity to protest the ugly status quo of so much that is wrong in this country.

So much of what is wrong has, unfortunately, been supported and made possible by the leadership of The American Bar Association.  The ABA so often treats the law as &quot;product&quot; to be sold to the highest bidders --the corporate powers of our nation who increasingly encroach on the individual rights of citizens in the interests of greater profits and control for the corporations.

It is my observation that law professors who live safely in the academic world always support the status quo of the law in the real world because they perceive this to be in their best interests.  Law professors sell their academic expertise in the commercial world and thus even &quot;opinion&quot; becomes product that is sold in the market place.

At least the law professors who blog share their expertise and knowledge and opinions for nothing and this is a public service.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundamental divide on the attitude toward voting was tested, huh!  &#8212;so many voting for policies and change that they perceive to be their best interests!  Even those &#8220;lower middle class citizens who are influenced by commercials&#8221; and beautiful rhetoric,  but who were uninformed about the real issues as defined by the highly educated special interests, got out to vote! What a surprise! What a great noise they made!</p>
<p>Congratulations to President Obama.  &#8220;To each his own&#8221;  and &#8220;to each his own knowledge of what serves his best interests.&#8221;  This election was a demonstration that representative government in democratic republics may be possible when the populace is brought to understand how important it is to exercise the right to vote.</p>
<p>I was shocked and pleasantly surprised to see the turnout on election day of young voters and people of color whom  I had never seen before at our local Poll location.</p>
<p>Where have these people been hiding?   Did they just become of age to cast their votes or did they recently move into the neighborhood?   Of course not!  Millions of new voters  were inspired by a message of hope and a vision of a better world &#8212; AND the opportunity to protest the ugly status quo of so much that is wrong in this country.</p>
<p>So much of what is wrong has, unfortunately, been supported and made possible by the leadership of The American Bar Association.  The ABA so often treats the law as &#8220;product&#8221; to be sold to the highest bidders &#8211;the corporate powers of our nation who increasingly encroach on the individual rights of citizens in the interests of greater profits and control for the corporations.</p>
<p>It is my observation that law professors who live safely in the academic world always support the status quo of the law in the real world because they perceive this to be in their best interests.  Law professors sell their academic expertise in the commercial world and thus even &#8220;opinion&#8221; becomes product that is sold in the market place.</p>
<p>At least the law professors who blog share their expertise and knowledge and opinions for nothing and this is a public service.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Cross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 00:40:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fundamental divide on the attitude toward voting was tested, huh!  ---so many voting for policies and change that they perceive to be their best interests!  Even those &quot;lower middle class citizens who are influenced by commercials&quot; and beautiful rhetoric,  but who were uninformed about the real issues as defined by the highly educated special interests, got out to vote! What a surprise! What a great noise they made!

Congratulations to President Obama.  &quot;To each his own&quot;  and &quot;to each his own knowledge of what serves his best interests.&quot;  This election was a demonstration that representative government in democratic republics may be possible when the populace is brought to understand how important it is to exercise the right to vote.

I was shocked and pleasantly surprised to see the turnout on election day of young voters and people of color whom  I had never seen before at our local Poll location.

Where have these people been hiding?   Did they just become of age to cast their votes or did they recently move into the neighborhood?   Of course not!  Millions of new voters  were inspired by a message of hope and a vision of a better world -- AND the opportunity to protest the ugly status quo of so much that is wrong in this country.

So much of what is wrong has, unfortunately, been supported and made possible by the leadership of The American Bar Association.  The ABA so often treats the law as &quot;product&quot; to be sold to the highest bidders --the corporate powers of our nation who increasingly encroach on the individual rights of citizens in the interests of greater profits and control for the corporations.

It is my observation that law professors who live safely in the academic world always support the status quo of the law in the real world because they perceive this to be in their best interests.  Law professors sell their academic expertise in the commercial world and thus even &quot;opinion&quot; becomes product that is sold in the market place.

At least the law professors who blog share their expertise and knowledge and opinions for nothing and this is a public service.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fundamental divide on the attitude toward voting was tested, huh!  &#8212;so many voting for policies and change that they perceive to be their best interests!  Even those &#8220;lower middle class citizens who are influenced by commercials&#8221; and beautiful rhetoric,  but who were uninformed about the real issues as defined by the highly educated special interests, got out to vote! What a surprise! What a great noise they made!</p>
<p>Congratulations to President Obama.  &#8220;To each his own&#8221;  and &#8220;to each his own knowledge of what serves his best interests.&#8221;  This election was a demonstration that representative government in democratic republics may be possible when the populace is brought to understand how important it is to exercise the right to vote.</p>
<p>I was shocked and pleasantly surprised to see the turnout on election day of young voters and people of color whom  I had never seen before at our local Poll location.</p>
<p>Where have these people been hiding?   Did they just become of age to cast their votes or did they recently move into the neighborhood?   Of course not!  Millions of new voters  were inspired by a message of hope and a vision of a better world &#8212; AND the opportunity to protest the ugly status quo of so much that is wrong in this country.</p>
<p>So much of what is wrong has, unfortunately, been supported and made possible by the leadership of The American Bar Association.  The ABA so often treats the law as &#8220;product&#8221; to be sold to the highest bidders &#8211;the corporate powers of our nation who increasingly encroach on the individual rights of citizens in the interests of greater profits and control for the corporations.</p>
<p>It is my observation that law professors who live safely in the academic world always support the status quo of the law in the real world because they perceive this to be in their best interests.  Law professors sell their academic expertise in the commercial world and thus even &#8220;opinion&#8221; becomes product that is sold in the market place.</p>
<p>At least the law professors who blog share their expertise and knowledge and opinions for nothing and this is a public service.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Horwitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Horwitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orin, what unprintable word has only three letters?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orin, what unprintable word has only three letters?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Durn... that&#039;s a good cautionary note for those of us (like me) prone to spouting off on any old topic. Supporting what you say: when I wrote some op-eds in the past year on quasi-political legal topics, I ended up surprised how much research I had to do, even on topics I knew pretty wellm if I wanted to say anything that would be informed and 100% accurate. I might not have been as careful were it a blog post rather than an op-ed for print publication, though, which might say something about how we have to start treating blog posts we write more seriously as writing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Durn&#8230; that&#8217;s a good cautionary note for those of us (like me) prone to spouting off on any old topic. Supporting what you say: when I wrote some op-eds in the past year on quasi-political legal topics, I ended up surprised how much research I had to do, even on topics I knew pretty wellm if I wanted to say anything that would be informed and 100% accurate. I might not have been as careful were it a blog post rather than an op-ed for print publication, though, which might say something about how we have to start treating blog posts we write more seriously as writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Bellmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Bellmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s probably the clearest expression I&#039;ve ever seen of the fundamental divide in attitudes towards voting: Voting as a decision making procedure, where uninformed voters are undesirable noise in the process, vs voting as a form of social validation, where it doesn&#039;t matter if you walk in and fill out the ballot blindfolded.

Put me on the first side of that divide.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s probably the clearest expression I&#8217;ve ever seen of the fundamental divide in attitudes towards voting: Voting as a decision making procedure, where uninformed voters are undesirable noise in the process, vs voting as a form of social validation, where it doesn&#8217;t matter if you walk in and fill out the ballot blindfolded.</p>
<p>Put me on the first side of that divide.</p>
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		<title>By: Orin Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orin Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 09:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the ***, Dave.

(That is, star footnote #3, not unprintable-word-with-three-letters.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the ***, Dave.</p>
<p>(That is, star footnote #3, not unprintable-word-with-three-letters.)</p>
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