Home | About | RSS Feed | Contact and Publicity Guidelines | Comment Policy the Law, the Universe, and Everything 

advertise-here4


Slip Opinions


Groundhog Day. (fp)

Banned in Tucson. (kw)

The Best and Worst of 2011 in Race and Law (kw)

Tortured to death for trespassing. (fp)

Drones of contention. (fp)

DOJ still coddling banks. (fp)

Creative destruction? Thank banks. (fp)

Blog about a new book, on how to talk to little girls--stressing smarts not cutes.   LAC

Macey on the heroic Rakoff. (fp)

Captured NY Fed. (fp)


solicitors

Our Podcast

Subscribe to Law Talk

law-rev-contents2.jpg


  • Posts by Author

  • Categories

  • Archives


  • Recent Comments


    • Paul Robichaux on Physical Punishment and Parental Rights

    • JR on Physical Punishment and Parental Rights

    • Jan on Physical Punishment and Parental Rights

    • Mark on Physical Punishment and Parental Rights

    • Shag from Brookline on Omelets and Eggs

    • Shag from Brookline on Omelets and Eggs

    • Joe on What Exactly is Wrong With Polygamy?

    • Phil on What Exactly is Wrong With Polygamy?

    • Lee on Lifecycles and the Firm

    • Car accident claim lawyers on Symposium Next Week on "A Legal Theory for Autonomous Artificial Agents"

    • Andrew MacKie-Mason on Can't the Supreme Court Just Say No to Cameras?

    • Joe on Employment Division v. Smith is Wrong

    • Shag from Brookline on Employment Division v. Smith is Wrong

    • Joe on Employment Division v. Smith is Wrong

    • Joe on Super En Banc in the Ninth Circuit
  •  

    Site Meter

    About the Blog

    Concurring Opinions is a multiple authored, general interest legal blog.

    (Image: Wikicommons)

Dali, Film, and Exclusivity

posted by Deven Desai

Dali_on_the_Rocky_Steps2.JPGApparently there are now three, yes three, Dali biopics in the works. One has Al Pacino which is likely to be ridiculous. But the other has Antonio Banderas which seems just as absurd. These two films are about the end of Dali’s life. The third is about his youth. Given that Dali was a pop figure whose life and work arguably presaged Warhol (see e.g., melting Coke bottles in Dali), maybe a wild world of conflicting films about him fits his world view. He did after all write two life stories, so three films may be too few for all I know.

Still the Banderas film may surpass even Dali’s view of himself. The film will be directed by Simon West who directed Con Air. Yes, Con Air, Nick Cage and a host of miscreants on a plane enjoy a bumpy ride and some blow ups. Maybe the Banderas film which it is claimed “will blend music with CGI sequences in an effort to capture the inventiveness and color of the painter. Story will explore how Dali conquered America and the world with sex, sin and surrealism only to succumb later to worldwide scandal and misfortune” is a perfect match for Dali’s spirit.

If you loved Antonio Banderas in Desperado, you will love him as Dali. His passion was his art and so was his weapon.

I envison Banderas whipping out paint brushes. Oil flies. The blob of paint is a clock! It lands on someone’s head and melts! The bad guy is now captured in a most surreal way and ponders whether time in prison matters once clocks melt. And all of this with cool CGI and a hip Los Lobos/Ottmar Leibert soundtrack.

The funny IP part of having three films in the works is that all the claims about copyright is needed to alllow exclusive rights and protect the large investment in a film are undercut by these competing projects. And competing projects occur often enough that one has to wonder are the Hollywood execs stupid? Do they lack information (not likely given how fast people know who is in or out and what project if approved or not in Hollywood)? OR is it that exclusivity simply does not tell the full story. As you can guess, I suggest the last explanation is correct. More on that later.

Image: WikiCommons

Author: Max Buten

License: Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License


 November 7, 2008 at 2:38 pm   Posted in: Uncategorized   Print This Post Print This Post

Responses (3)

  1. Bruce Boyden - November 7, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    It’s a funny phenomenon, certainly. Other examples are the 2 or 3 Alexander pics (I lost count), the 3 Christopher Columbus movies, the 2 Wyatt Earp/Tombstone movies, and the 2 comet/asteroid hits the Earth movies.

    But I’m not sure what it tells us about exclusivity. Obviously no one has an exclusive right to tell a story about Christopher Columbus. And the two comet/asteroid movies were completely different in plot and tone. So were “Wyatt Earp” and “Tombstone.” Any argument that copyright’s justification is based on a need to protect exclusivity at such a high level of generality is a non-starter.

  2. Pete Aldous - November 10, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    You seem to be saying that producers don’t need exclusivity to justify their investment in movies. That argument is misguided because it confuses exclusive control over an idea with exclusive control over the expression of that idea. A filmed biography of Salvador Dali is the idea that is being copied here. Each producer is willing to accept that they can’t control ideas at the idea level under the current law, but they still require exclusive control over their expression of that idea.

    This situation, with three simultaneous Dali movies, actually strengthens the argument for stronger copyright rather than weakening it. As you are fond of pointing out, in Hollywood “nobody knows anything.” There are three Dali biopics because no one knows beforehand which of the three concepts will make money. Hopefully one will be profitable, and will justify the investment the studios made in the unsuccessful films they bankrolled this year.

    If there was less copyright protection there wouldn’t be an incentive to produce any Dali films. The risk of spending millions of dollars on a film that will probably fail at the box office is scary enough. If producers were afraid that the profitability of their few successes would be reduced they wouldn’t invest at all.

    Your post does raise another issue, however, that of derivative works. Because the events that made up Dali’s life are facts they are not copyrightable. Anyone can make a movie about Dali based on those facts. Dali’s artwork, on the other hand, is copyrightable and is protected by copyright.

    Any movie producer who makes a Dali biography that incorporates his artwork will have to compensate Dali’s estate for use of any of his paintings in their film. It is highly unlikely that Dali considered this income when deciding whether he should spend time painting. The possibility of a payout was too remote.

    Dali’s incentives are different than the Hollywood studios. Derivative works are much more important to Hollywood, where the costs are so high, than they are to Dali, who only needed paint and canvas. Unfortunately there’s no easy way to distinguish the two situations from the law’s perspective.

  3. Max Buten - March 1, 2010 at 9:46 am

    I’m not the author, I’m the photographer.

Leave a Reply

Spam protection by WP Captcha-Free


  • « Previous post
  • Next post »

Authors

Daniel J. Solove
Kaimipono Wenger
Dave Hoffman
Frank Pasquale
Deven Desai
Danielle Citron
Lawrence Cunningham
Sarah Waldeck
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Solangel Maldonado
Gerard Magliocca

Guests

Derek Bambauer
Gabriella Coleman
andré douglas pond cummings
David Gray
Brishen Rogers
Joseph Turow
Elizabeth A. Wilson













Previous Guests

Michael Abramowicz
Michelle Adams
Robert Ahdieh
Marvin Ammori
Michelle Anderson
Laura Appleman
Taunya Lovell Banks
Ann Bartow
Steven Bellovin
Adam Benforado
Gaia Bernstein
Francesca Bignami
Josh Blackman
Joseph Blocher
Jeremy Blumenthal
Kathleen Boozang
Bruce Boyden
Donald Braman
Al Brophy
Neil H. Buchanan
Bill Burke-White
Scott Burris
Paul Butler
Ryan Calo
Naomi Cahn
Anupam Chander
Miriam Cherry
Jack Chin
Glenn Cohen
Jennifer Collins
Caroline Mala Corbin
Thomas Crocker
Allison Danner
Brannon Denning
Deven Desai
Mike Dimino
Mark Edwards
Maxine Eichner
Jessica Erickson
David Fagundes
Lisa Fairfax
Joshua Fairfield
Christine Haight Farley
Kim Ferzan
Dan Filler
Mary Anne Franks
Michael Froomkin
Amanda Frost
Brian Frye
Timothy Glynn
Rachel Godsil
Eric Goldman
Kyle Graham
David Gray
Craig Green
Tristin Green
Jonathan Hafetz
Meredith Harbach
Michelle Harner
Jeffrey Harrison
Hosea Harvey
Erica Hashimoto
Jennifer Hendricks
Carissa Hessick
Laura Heymann
Robert Hillman
Gilbert A. Holmes
Nicole Huberfeld
Christine Hurt
Darian Ibrahim
Sherrilyn Ifill
John Ip
Shavar Jeffries
Kevin Johnson
Kristin Johnson
Jeff Jonas
Courtney Joslin
Dan Kahan
Jeffrey Kahn
Brian Kalt
Sam Kamin
Michael Kang
Chimène Keitner
Alicia Kelly
Orin Kerr
Nancy Kim
Heidi Kitrosser
Adam Kolber
Russell Korobkin
Alex Kreit
Anita S. Krishnakumar
Susan Kuo
Greg Lastowka
Sarah Lawsky
Youngjae Lee
Margaret Lewis
Erik Lillquist
Jeff Lipshaw
Jonathan Lipson
Jacqueline Lipton
Matthew Lister
Joseph Liu
Michael Madison
Kevin Noble Maillard
Solangel Maldonado
Jason Mazzone
Linda McClain
William McGeveran
Salil Mehra
Carrie Menkel-Meadow
Max Minzner
Viva Moffat
Scott Moss
Eric Muller
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Helen Norton
Elizabeth Nowicki
Paul Ohm
Angela Onwuachi-Willing
Michael O'Shea
David Opderback
Kristen Osenga
Rafael Pardo
Marcy Peek
Eduardo Peñalver
Robert Percival
Michael J. Pitts
Marc Poirier
David Post
Amanda Pustilnik
Shruti Rana
Geoffrey Rapp
Neil Richards
Lori Ringhand
Alice Ristroph
Marc Roark
Sasha Romanosky
Tuan Samahon
Susan Scafidi
David Schraub
Paul Secunda
Jonathan Siegel
Jessica Silbey
Peter Smith
Judd Sneirson
Adam Steinman
Charles Sullivan
Rick Swedloff
Olivier Sylvain
Steph Tai
Andrew Taslitz
Robert Tsai
Jenia Turner
Steve Vladeck
Ari Waldman
Spencer Weber Waller
Howard Wasserman
Melissa Waters
Frank Wu
Alfred Yen
Corey Yung
David Zaring
Timothy Zick
Michael Zimmer
Jonathan Zittrain

Ownership

Concurring Opinions is a
general-interest legal blog
operated by Concurring
Opinions LLC, a Pennsylvania
Limited Liability Corporation.

Blogroll

Above the Law
Access to Justice
ACS Blog
Althouse
Balkinization
Becker-Posner Blog
BlackProf
BoingBoing
Chicago Law Faculty Blog
Conglomerate
CrimLaw
Crime & Federalism
CrimProf Blog
Crooked Timber
Derechoalderecho
Discourse.net
Dorf on Law
Election Law
Emergent Chaos
The Faculty Lounge
Feminist Law Profs
43(B)log
Freakonomics Blog
Freedom to Tinker
Google Blogoscoped
How Appealing
Ideoblog
Info/Law
Instapundit.com
Juris Novus
Jurisdynamics
Just Books
Law and Humanities Blog
Law and Letters
Law Librarian Blog
Legal Profession Blog
Legal Theory Blog
Legal Times Blog
Leiter Reports
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
Lessig Blog
Madisonian Theory
Media Law Blog
Mirror of Justice
The Moderate Voice
National Security Advisors
Opinio Juris
Point of Law
PrawfsBlawg
ProfessorBainbridge.com
Property Prof Blog
Red Tape Chronicles
The Right Coast
Schneier on Security
SCOTUSBlog
Security Dilemmas
Sentencing Law and Policy
Simple Justice
Sivacracy.net
The Situationist
Susan Crawford
TalkLeft
Talking Points Memo
TaxProf Blog
TeachPrivacy Blog
Tech & Marketing Law
Truth on the Market
Volokh Conspiracy
WorkPlace Prof Blog
WSJ Law Blog
Wonkette
The Yin Blog


© Concurring Opinions

Powered by WordPress