Comments on: Faces in the Immigration Debate http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/07/faces_in_the_im.html The Law, the Universe, and Everything Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:33:39 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Brett Bellmore http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/07/faces_in_the_im.html/comment-page-1#comment-48266 Brett Bellmore Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:43:12 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2008/07/faces-in-the-immigration-debate.html#comment-48266 Why would a raid on illegal immigrants strike fear into those at the bottom <i>who are here legally</i>? And isn't law enforcement at least partially about striking fear into those engaged in <i>illegal</i> activities? I think they call it deterence... That said, I think JP is probably right, the raids are supposed to motivate businesses to lobby against enforcement of immigration laws. IOW, I support the means but not the end... Why would a raid on illegal immigrants strike fear into those at the bottom who are here legally? And isn’t law enforcement at least partially about striking fear into those engaged in illegal activities? I think they call it deterence…

That said, I think JP is probably right, the raids are supposed to motivate businesses to lobby against enforcement of immigration laws. IOW, I support the means but not the end…

]]> By: JP http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/07/faces_in_the_im.html/comment-page-1#comment-48265 JP Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:30:49 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2008/07/faces-in-the-immigration-debate.html#comment-48265 I don't think these raids are about either "realizing the rule of law" or "striking fear into those at the bottom ...." The vigorous and random enforcement of previously under-enforced immigration laws seems designed to strike fear into those at the top. That is, the Administration wants to compel big business to lobby in support of comprehensive immigration reform / amnesty. Notably, the raids began only after the Administration's reform effort failed in Congress (after a fight that business interests largely avoided). (BTW, I support the end but not the means) I don’t think these raids are about either “realizing the rule of law” or “striking fear into those at the bottom ….”

The vigorous and random enforcement of previously under-enforced immigration laws seems designed to strike fear into those at the top. That is, the Administration wants to compel big business to lobby in support of comprehensive immigration reform / amnesty. Notably, the raids began only after the Administration’s reform effort failed in Congress (after a fight that business interests largely avoided).

(BTW, I support the end but not the means)

]]> By: TLB http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/07/faces_in_the_im.html/comment-page-1#comment-48264 TLB Sat, 19 Jul 2008 23:26:16 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2008/07/faces-in-the-immigration-debate.html#comment-48264 There are too many things missing from this post to detail all of them, but how about some questions? 1. Is it good policy for two countries to become dependent as described above? 2. When companies - and even the FederalReserve - want to take a cut of the money that IllegalAliens send home, what are they doing? 3. When those entities use monetary or other influence to encourage politicians to look the other way so they can make more money, what is that called? There are too many things missing from this post to detail all of them, but how about some questions?

1. Is it good policy for two countries to become dependent as described above?

2. When companies – and even the FederalReserve – want to take a cut of the money that IllegalAliens send home, what are they doing?

3. When those entities use monetary or other influence to encourage politicians to look the other way so they can make more money, what is that called?

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