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	<title>Comments on: So Let&#8217;s Say Justice Scalia Writes D.C. v. Heller &#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Goof Ticket</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48712</link>
		<dc:creator>Goof Ticket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the ruling removes the community regulation authority, on the actual weapons...then they only need regulate the distribution of ammo, as they do with any zoning issue for any business.

As a gas station must protect the highly volatile fuel it provides, so must an ammunition dealer, provide such protections to assure that those products are not placing the public in danger.

I suspect this will open a can of worms, from local zoning issues, to the police using more deadly force actions, if gun sightings, increase.

Regardless, it should bring greater attention to the Disrict of Columbia&#039;s need for greater autonomy as a state like entity.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the ruling removes the community regulation authority, on the actual weapons&#8230;then they only need regulate the distribution of ammo, as they do with any zoning issue for any business.</p>
<p>As a gas station must protect the highly volatile fuel it provides, so must an ammunition dealer, provide such protections to assure that those products are not placing the public in danger.</p>
<p>I suspect this will open a can of worms, from local zoning issues, to the police using more deadly force actions, if gun sightings, increase.</p>
<p>Regardless, it should bring greater attention to the Disrict of Columbia&#8217;s need for greater autonomy as a state like entity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonesy</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48711</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonesy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incorporation is a liberal interpretation. Thats the irony of gun rights activists working all this time for conservative, republican court nominees. Conservatives are less likely to incorporate the 2nd than liberals are. And as long as states can ban guns (or other rights), what good is the right then in the first place? Its not &quot;inalienable&quot; if it depends on living in the correct state. Thats what us liberals have been trying to say all along. Now you finally listen when its a right YOU care about.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incorporation is a liberal interpretation. Thats the irony of gun rights activists working all this time for conservative, republican court nominees. Conservatives are less likely to incorporate the 2nd than liberals are. And as long as states can ban guns (or other rights), what good is the right then in the first place? Its not &#8220;inalienable&#8221; if it depends on living in the correct state. Thats what us liberals have been trying to say all along. Now you finally listen when its a right YOU care about.</p>
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		<title>By: GunShowOnTheNet</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48710</link>
		<dc:creator>GunShowOnTheNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 06:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next, let us consider the PRE-EXISTENT NATURAL RIGHT of the British-American &#039;subject&#039; BEFORE the Constitution. As it was explained by a very knowledgeable and well known authority;

&quot;The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defense, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute I W. &amp; M. st.2. c.2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression.&quot;

- William Blackstone, 1 Commentaries on the Laws of England 136, 1765–1769.

http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/CommentariesBlackstone.html

Then, let us give our attention to how the new American Citizen&#039;s Right was dramatically improved AFTER the Constitution;

&quot;The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and this without any qualification as to their condition or degree, as is the case in the British government....&quot;

&quot;....This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty....The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.&quot;

&quot;...In America we may reasonably hope that the people will never cease to regard the right of keeping and bearing arms as the surest pledge of their liberty...&quot;

- St. George Tucker, U.S. District Court Judge,  Blackstone&#039;s Commentaries, (1803).

http://gunshowonthenet.com/BOOKS/BlackCommTucker/CommTuckerV1Index.html

The Natural Right has NOTHING to do with the &quot;militia&quot;, other than when joining together for the &quot;common defense&quot;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next, let us consider the PRE-EXISTENT NATURAL RIGHT of the British-American &#8217;subject&#8217; BEFORE the Constitution. As it was explained by a very knowledgeable and well known authority;</p>
<p>&#8220;The fifth and last auxiliary right of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defense, suitable to their condition and degree, and such as are allowed by law. Which is also declared by the same statute I W. &#038; M. st.2. c.2. and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self-preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression.&#8221;</p>
<p>- William Blackstone, 1 Commentaries on the Laws of England 136, 1765–1769.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/CommentariesBlackstone.html" rel="nofollow">http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/CommentariesBlackstone.html</a></p>
<p>Then, let us give our attention to how the new American Citizen&#8217;s Right was dramatically improved AFTER the Constitution;</p>
<p>&#8220;The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and this without any qualification as to their condition or degree, as is the case in the British government&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty&#8230;.The right of self-defense is the first law of nature; in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Whenever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;In America we may reasonably hope that the people will never cease to regard the right of keeping and bearing arms as the surest pledge of their liberty&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>- St. George Tucker, U.S. District Court Judge,  Blackstone&#8217;s Commentaries, (1803).</p>
<p><a href="http://gunshowonthenet.com/BOOKS/BlackCommTucker/CommTuckerV1Index.html" rel="nofollow">http://gunshowonthenet.com/BOOKS/BlackCommTucker/CommTuckerV1Index.html</a></p>
<p>The Natural Right has NOTHING to do with the &#8220;militia&#8221;, other than when joining together for the &#8220;common defense&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: GunShowOnTheNet</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48709</link>
		<dc:creator>GunShowOnTheNet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All one has to do is consider the preamble to the Bill of Rights itself:

http://gunshowonthenet.com/BillOfRights.htm

&quot;The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further DECLARATORY and RESTRICTIVE clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;

&quot;Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:

...Amendment II

DECLARATORY; (Common Defense)

http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/Precedent/SenateJournal09091789.html

&quot;A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,&quot;

RESTRICTIVE; (Self-Defense/Preservation, The First Law of Nature).

http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/RightofDefense.html

http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/SelfPreservation.html

http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/LawsofNature.html

&quot;the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All one has to do is consider the preamble to the Bill of Rights itself:</p>
<p><a href="http://gunshowonthenet.com/BillOfRights.htm" rel="nofollow">http://gunshowonthenet.com/BillOfRights.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Conventions of a number of the States having, at the time of adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further DECLARATORY and RESTRICTIVE clauses should be added, and as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution;</p>
<p>&#8220;Resolved, by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two-thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as amendments to the Constitution of the United States; all or any of which articles, when ratified by three-fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes as part of the said Constitution, namely:</p>
<p>&#8230;Amendment II</p>
<p>DECLARATORY; (Common Defense)</p>
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<p>&#8220;A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,&#8221;</p>
<p>RESTRICTIVE; (Self-Defense/Preservation, The First Law of Nature).</p>
<p><a href="http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/RightofDefense.html" rel="nofollow">http://gunshowonthenet.com/AfterTheFact/RightofDefense.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/SelfPreservation.html" rel="nofollow">http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALEGAL/SelfPreservation.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/LawsofNature.html" rel="nofollow">http://gunshowonthenet.com/2ALaw/LawsofNature.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48708</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why there&#039;s a need for &quot;incorporation&quot; to extend the Second Amendment to state and local governments.

Contrast the First Amendment&#039;s &quot;Congress shall make no law . . . .&quot; to the Seconds&#039;, &quot;the right of the people. . . .&quot;

The former does not, on its face, apply to other legislative bodies and so it follows that some complementary device (like the 14th) is needed to apply it more broadly.  But the Second does not restrict Congress, it empowers The People.

Anyway, that&#039;s what I think.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why there&#8217;s a need for &#8220;incorporation&#8221; to extend the Second Amendment to state and local governments.</p>
<p>Contrast the First Amendment&#8217;s &#8220;Congress shall make no law . . . .&#8221; to the Seconds&#8217;, &#8220;the right of the people. . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>The former does not, on its face, apply to other legislative bodies and so it follows that some complementary device (like the 14th) is needed to apply it more broadly.  But the Second does not restrict Congress, it empowers The People.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s what I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Troll Feeder</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48707</link>
		<dc:creator>Troll Feeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in re ira gunnut 8:28:

No, numbnuts, he would have to be tried first.

Because he is an American citizen.

Captured on American soil.

Which is why I wrote that it was wrong of President Bush to hold him as an enemy combatant.

The only way it would have been right would have been to make him an non-American.  Technically, he would have been in US custody on US soil then, so he would probably have had access to US courts anyway, although it would have been moot since he had already been tried.

Anyway, had he been tried and convicted for treason, as he should have been, we could and should have just hanged him and been done with it.

The other guys can rot in Gitmo until their side declares an end to hostilities.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in re ira gunnut 8:28:</p>
<p>No, numbnuts, he would have to be tried first.</p>
<p>Because he is an American citizen.</p>
<p>Captured on American soil.</p>
<p>Which is why I wrote that it was wrong of President Bush to hold him as an enemy combatant.</p>
<p>The only way it would have been right would have been to make him an non-American.  Technically, he would have been in US custody on US soil then, so he would probably have had access to US courts anyway, although it would have been moot since he had already been tried.</p>
<p>Anyway, had he been tried and convicted for treason, as he should have been, we could and should have just hanged him and been done with it.</p>
<p>The other guys can rot in Gitmo until their side declares an end to hostilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Tipton</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48706</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Tipton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this original draft of the 2nd Amendment were ratified we wouldn&#039;t be having this argument:

&quot;That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well regulated Militia composed of the body of the people trained to arms is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free State. That standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this original draft of the 2nd Amendment were ratified we wouldn&#8217;t be having this argument:</p>
<p>&#8220;That the people have a right to keep and bear arms; that a well regulated Militia composed of the body of the people trained to arms is the proper, natural and safe defense of a free State. That standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, and therefore ought to be avoided as far as the circumstances and protection of the community will admit; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ira gunnut</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48705</link>
		<dc:creator>ira gunnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was wrong of President Bush to hold Padilla without first stripping him of his citizenship (which he should have done, given Padilla&#039;s treasonous actions).&quot;

How do you make a determination that he committed &quot;treasonous actions&quot; without a trial beforehand?  Oh, I get it, he should&#039;ve been sentenced fist, then have the trial!  Christ, what a fascist mentality.  Cherry-pick the parts of the Constitution you like, and ignore what you don&#039;t.  How moronic.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was wrong of President Bush to hold Padilla without first stripping him of his citizenship (which he should have done, given Padilla&#8217;s treasonous actions).&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you make a determination that he committed &#8220;treasonous actions&#8221; without a trial beforehand?  Oh, I get it, he should&#8217;ve been sentenced fist, then have the trial!  Christ, what a fascist mentality.  Cherry-pick the parts of the Constitution you like, and ignore what you don&#8217;t.  How moronic.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence C Farrell Jr</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-2#comment-48704</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence C Farrell Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;You mean you can&#039;t have ... you know, a turkey gun and a duck gun and a .30-06 and a .270 and ... different hunting guns for different [purposes]?&quot;&quot;

There&#039;s that 1938 NAZI Waffenwerbshein language again, sheeesh!

The Seond is NOT about hunting Bambi, and here is a so called Second Stalwart again raising the the Lib&#039;s favorite piece of propaganda, the &quot;hunting&quot; issue.

I&#039;m disgusted.

Larry

Gun Owners of NJ

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;You mean you can&#8217;t have &#8230; you know, a turkey gun and a duck gun and a .30-06 and a .270 and &#8230; different hunting guns for different [purposes]?&#8221;"</p>
<p>There&#8217;s that 1938 NAZI Waffenwerbshein language again, sheeesh!</p>
<p>The Seond is NOT about hunting Bambi, and here is a so called Second Stalwart again raising the the Lib&#8217;s favorite piece of propaganda, the &#8220;hunting&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m disgusted.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
<p>Gun Owners of NJ</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence C Farrell Jr</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-1#comment-48703</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence C Farrell Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;You mean you can&#039;t have ... you know, a turkey gun and a duck gun and a .30-06 and a .270 and ... different hunting guns for different [purposes]?&quot;&quot;

There&#039;s that 1938 NAZI Waffenwerbshein language again, sheeesh!

The Seond is NOT about hunting Bambi, and here is a so called Second Stalwart again raising the the Lib&#039;s favorite piece of propaganda, the &quot;hunting&quot; issue.

I&#039;m disgusted.

Larry

Gun Owners of NJ

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;You mean you can&#8217;t have &#8230; you know, a turkey gun and a duck gun and a .30-06 and a .270 and &#8230; different hunting guns for different [purposes]?&#8221;"</p>
<p>There&#8217;s that 1938 NAZI Waffenwerbshein language again, sheeesh!</p>
<p>The Seond is NOT about hunting Bambi, and here is a so called Second Stalwart again raising the the Lib&#8217;s favorite piece of propaganda, the &#8220;hunting&#8221; issue.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m disgusted.</p>
<p>Larry</p>
<p>Gun Owners of NJ</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Tregarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Tregarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter Lee, you may be off a bit.  I remember reading that in Miller the question was of common usage and military usage/utility.  No one demonstrated to the SCOTUS that &#039;trenchbrooms&#039; were used during WWI and other conflicts involving US forces.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter Lee, you may be off a bit.  I remember reading that in Miller the question was of common usage and military usage/utility.  No one demonstrated to the SCOTUS that &#8216;trenchbrooms&#8217; were used during WWI and other conflicts involving US forces.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey P. Child</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html/comment-page-1#comment-48701</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey P. Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 02:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim A writes:  &quot;Millions of (mostly) white men, obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn, will continue to treat the gun as a sacrament in their religion of death.&quot;

Jim--if only it were true that we lived in an age that &quot;exalts brains over brawn.&quot;  The sad fact is that we humans have failed to move past our base nature as animals, and we still prey upon each other--indeed, in some ways more so now than ever before.  Only a deluded person would believe that this age exalts brains over brawn.  We are fortunate here in the United States to not face the brutal truth on a daily basis, but that doesn&#039;t change the truth:  We are animals, some of us sheep (you), some of us wolves (the criminals for who laws and civil norms are meaningless), and some of us sheepdogs (those of us who have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the wolves and say, &quot;no more!&quot; and who recognize that giving up our &quot;fangs&quot; only renders us defenseless against the wolves).

You go right on believing that your brains will save you in this &quot;age&quot; and, when the wolves come looking for you and yours, I pray that a sheepdog will be there to save your sorry caboose...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim A writes:  &#8220;Millions of (mostly) white men, obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn, will continue to treat the gun as a sacrament in their religion of death.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jim&#8211;if only it were true that we lived in an age that &#8220;exalts brains over brawn.&#8221;  The sad fact is that we humans have failed to move past our base nature as animals, and we still prey upon each other&#8211;indeed, in some ways more so now than ever before.  Only a deluded person would believe that this age exalts brains over brawn.  We are fortunate here in the United States to not face the brutal truth on a daily basis, but that doesn&#8217;t change the truth:  We are animals, some of us sheep (you), some of us wolves (the criminals for who laws and civil norms are meaningless), and some of us sheepdogs (those of us who have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the wolves and say, &#8220;no more!&#8221; and who recognize that giving up our &#8220;fangs&#8221; only renders us defenseless against the wolves).</p>
<p>You go right on believing that your brains will save you in this &#8220;age&#8221; and, when the wolves come looking for you and yours, I pray that a sheepdog will be there to save your sorry caboose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim A's an idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim A's an idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn&quot;

What is the basis of this comment? What kind of a panicky, whiney, little ninny, I hate America kind of pansy makes a ridiculous comment like that. Back that up with something you froofy little girl.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn&#8221;</p>
<p>What is the basis of this comment? What kind of a panicky, whiney, little ninny, I hate America kind of pansy makes a ridiculous comment like that. Back that up with something you froofy little girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Santee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.&quot; - Sigmund Freud

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		<title>By: TmjUtah</title>
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		<dc:creator>TmjUtah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Millions of (mostly) white men, obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn, will continue to treat the gun as a sacrament in their religion of death.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

If this culture was anything about brains, we wouldn&#039;t be starving ourselves of resources on the basis of a hoax AND considering candidates for president who represent Marxism on one side and at best nanny state interference/open borders on the other.

Brains?

I&#039;ll keep my guns, and hopefully my freedom.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Millions of (mostly) white men, obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn, will continue to treat the gun as a sacrament in their religion of death.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>If this culture was anything about brains, we wouldn&#8217;t be starving ourselves of resources on the basis of a hoax AND considering candidates for president who represent Marxism on one side and at best nanny state interference/open borders on the other.</p>
<p>Brains?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll keep my guns, and hopefully my freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Troll Feeder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troll Feeder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In re wwcross 1:30 PM

Until Kennedy et al.&#039;s recent vomitus, the Constitution only applied to Americans and those on American soil.

It was wrong of President Bush to hold Padilla without first stripping him of his citizenship (which he should have done, given Padilla&#039;s treasonous actions).  It is absolutely right of President Bush to hold enemy combatants until the end of hostilities.

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<p>Until Kennedy et al.&#8217;s recent vomitus, the Constitution only applied to Americans and those on American soil.</p>
<p>It was wrong of President Bush to hold Padilla without first stripping him of his citizenship (which he should have done, given Padilla&#8217;s treasonous actions).  It is absolutely right of President Bush to hold enemy combatants until the end of hostilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter which way the Court rules, there will be no impact on the self-destructive gun culture of the United States.  Millions of (mostly) white men, obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn, will continue to treat the gun as a sacrament in their religion of death.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter which way the Court rules, there will be no impact on the self-destructive gun culture of the United States.  Millions of (mostly) white men, obsessed with the declining value of their masculinity in an age that exalts brains over brawn, will continue to treat the gun as a sacrament in their religion of death.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey P. Child</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey P. Child</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem--which will not be solved, but rather will be perpetuated by, Heller--is that the arguments on both sides seem to completely miss the point:  The Second Amendment does not grant any right to anyone.  The &quot;right&quot; to keep and bear arms preexists and supercedes the Constitution--it is a natural right, derived from the right to defend one&#039;s self, that each human being owns by the simple fact of being human.  The only substantive effect of the Second Amendment is to describe the limitation on government in restricting that right.  And that limitation is quite explicit:  The right to keep and bear arms &quot;shall not be infringed.&quot;

Unfortunately, even most of us who love and will defend our God-given rights have fallen victim to the erroneous interpretation of the Second Amendment as &quot;granting&quot; some right.  It does not!  It is my--and your--basic, natural, God-given, human right to keep and bear arms for self-defense, and the Second Amendment merely acknowledges the existence of that right and bars the government from infringing on it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem&#8211;which will not be solved, but rather will be perpetuated by, Heller&#8211;is that the arguments on both sides seem to completely miss the point:  The Second Amendment does not grant any right to anyone.  The &#8220;right&#8221; to keep and bear arms preexists and supercedes the Constitution&#8211;it is a natural right, derived from the right to defend one&#8217;s self, that each human being owns by the simple fact of being human.  The only substantive effect of the Second Amendment is to describe the limitation on government in restricting that right.  And that limitation is quite explicit:  The right to keep and bear arms &#8220;shall not be infringed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, even most of us who love and will defend our God-given rights have fallen victim to the erroneous interpretation of the Second Amendment as &#8220;granting&#8221; some right.  It does not!  It is my&#8211;and your&#8211;basic, natural, God-given, human right to keep and bear arms for self-defense, and the Second Amendment merely acknowledges the existence of that right and bars the government from infringing on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flaws in Miller include the notion that sawed off shotguns were not in use by the militia.

In fact, sawed off shotguns were in common use among regular and national guard units engaged in trench warfare during WWI.

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<p>In fact, sawed off shotguns were in common use among regular and national guard units engaged in trench warfare during WWI.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;Letters of Marque and Reprisal&quot; clause presumes the private ownership of crew served weapons (for example, a ship armed with cannon).

And that predated the 2nd Amendment.

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<p>And that predated the 2nd Amendment.</p>
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