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	<title>Comments on: Defense Spending as Self-Fulfilling Prophecy</title>
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		<title>By: Don Meaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Meaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When thinking about spending in Health and Safety, keep in mind that the Constitution gives no powers to the Federal Legislature on the subject. The States retained those powers. Why would the founders make that decision?

First: Competition between the states for new business or business growth leads to discouragement of higher taxes. State spending is less subject to abuse.

Second There are 4 classes of spending (Per Milton Friedman).

1. Spending of your money on yourself. You care about both cost and value.

2. Spending of your money on someone else. You care about cost, not so much about value.

3. Spending of someone else&#039;s money on you. You care about value, not so much about cost.

4. Spending of A&#039;s money on B. You (C) don&#039;t care so much about either cost, or value.

Government spending is normally of class 4. Speinding when you don&#039;t care about the outcome is normally less efficient than when you spend and care about the outcome. Thus government spending is less efficient than private spending.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When thinking about spending in Health and Safety, keep in mind that the Constitution gives no powers to the Federal Legislature on the subject. The States retained those powers. Why would the founders make that decision?</p>
<p>First: Competition between the states for new business or business growth leads to discouragement of higher taxes. State spending is less subject to abuse.</p>
<p>Second There are 4 classes of spending (Per Milton Friedman).</p>
<p>1. Spending of your money on yourself. You care about both cost and value.</p>
<p>2. Spending of your money on someone else. You care about cost, not so much about value.</p>
<p>3. Spending of someone else&#8217;s money on you. You care about value, not so much about cost.</p>
<p>4. Spending of A&#8217;s money on B. You (C) don&#8217;t care so much about either cost, or value.</p>
<p>Government spending is normally of class 4. Speinding when you don&#8217;t care about the outcome is normally less efficient than when you spend and care about the outcome. Thus government spending is less efficient than private spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Humblelawstudent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humblelawstudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ugh, articles like Scheer&#039;s are incredibly irritating.  His broader point is reasonable (though I disagree), but much of his evidence is the distortions and deceptions.

For example, in his discussion of China he ridicules the idea that China could be (any time soon) a threat to the US.  His point misses the mark.  No one contends that China could ever (at least in the next 20 years) inflict a broad strategic defeat on the US.  Instead China has, or soon will have, the ability to control specific areas, such as around Taiwan, and inflict prohibitive losses on any US attempt to remove China from the area (in say, an invasion on Taiwan).  Such a situation is where the potential Chinese threat arises and US policy makers are trying to address.  Whether we really should be concerned with this is a legitimate question, but Scheer doesn&#039;t really bother to address it honestly and reasonably.

Another example is his attacks on the F-22 and F-35.  Evidently unbeknownst to him, but known to many if not most military advisors is our F-15s and F-18s are largely obselete compared to the latest generation of Russian fighters and some of the upcoming Chinese copies.   Developing, testing, and producing aircraft takes a decade if not more.  If we had not developed the F-35 and more importantly the F-22, the US would have inferior aircraft to other nations, especially come five years from now.

Unlike say WW2, developing a modern aircraft or weapons system takes often a decade or more of lead time.  To have an effective military, we have to be prepared for future conflicts, (at least 5-10 years in teh future).  It is simply untenable to wait for parity by another country or even superiority and then expect that we can recover the difference.  It simply doesn&#039;t work that way anymore (unlike again WW2).

Perhaps we don&#039;t have to have 2000 fighters in the airforce, however that really isn&#039;t the argument that he making.  His poor and frankly ignorant arguments do a great disservice to the legitimate debate regarding the direction of our military.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh, articles like Scheer&#8217;s are incredibly irritating.  His broader point is reasonable (though I disagree), but much of his evidence is the distortions and deceptions.</p>
<p>For example, in his discussion of China he ridicules the idea that China could be (any time soon) a threat to the US.  His point misses the mark.  No one contends that China could ever (at least in the next 20 years) inflict a broad strategic defeat on the US.  Instead China has, or soon will have, the ability to control specific areas, such as around Taiwan, and inflict prohibitive losses on any US attempt to remove China from the area (in say, an invasion on Taiwan).  Such a situation is where the potential Chinese threat arises and US policy makers are trying to address.  Whether we really should be concerned with this is a legitimate question, but Scheer doesn&#8217;t really bother to address it honestly and reasonably.</p>
<p>Another example is his attacks on the F-22 and F-35.  Evidently unbeknownst to him, but known to many if not most military advisors is our F-15s and F-18s are largely obselete compared to the latest generation of Russian fighters and some of the upcoming Chinese copies.   Developing, testing, and producing aircraft takes a decade if not more.  If we had not developed the F-35 and more importantly the F-22, the US would have inferior aircraft to other nations, especially come five years from now.</p>
<p>Unlike say WW2, developing a modern aircraft or weapons system takes often a decade or more of lead time.  To have an effective military, we have to be prepared for future conflicts, (at least 5-10 years in teh future).  It is simply untenable to wait for parity by another country or even superiority and then expect that we can recover the difference.  It simply doesn&#8217;t work that way anymore (unlike again WW2).</p>
<p>Perhaps we don&#8217;t have to have 2000 fighters in the airforce, however that really isn&#8217;t the argument that he making.  His poor and frankly ignorant arguments do a great disservice to the legitimate debate regarding the direction of our military.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Oman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Oman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scheer&#039;s use of the term &quot;peacetime&quot; strikes me as remarkably obtuse.  I live in an area with lots and lots of military families, and I am sure that they would be surprised to learn that we have a &quot;peacetime&quot; budget.  As far as they are concerned, the fact that their loved ones get sent to Iraq or Afghanistan, where they are then shot at and shoot at the enemy, makes it &quot;wartime.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scheer&#8217;s use of the term &#8220;peacetime&#8221; strikes me as remarkably obtuse.  I live in an area with lots and lots of military families, and I am sure that they would be surprised to learn that we have a &#8220;peacetime&#8221; budget.  As far as they are concerned, the fact that their loved ones get sent to Iraq or Afghanistan, where they are then shot at and shoot at the enemy, makes it &#8220;wartime.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick S. O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick S. O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I first read Scheer&#039;s piece in my local paper (The LA Times) and was wondering if anyone would pick up on it. I think the self-fulfilling prophecy and positional competition stuff speak volumes, although too few are listening, as the housing crisis, the price of gas and food, and the economy in general, direct their attention elsewhere, however much it all falls under the heading of old-fashioned political economy.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I first read Scheer&#8217;s piece in my local paper (The LA Times) and was wondering if anyone would pick up on it. I think the self-fulfilling prophecy and positional competition stuff speak volumes, although too few are listening, as the housing crisis, the price of gas and food, and the economy in general, direct their attention elsewhere, however much it all falls under the heading of old-fashioned political economy.</p>
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