the Law, the Universe, and Everything 

Search

Concurring Opinions is a
general-interest legal blog
operated by Concurring
Opinions LLC, a Pennsylvania
Limited Liability Corporation.

Yale University Press

ad-logo5.jpg

Our Podcast

Subscribe to Law Talk

Law-Rev-Forum-2.jpg

law-rev-contents2.jpg

Law-Prof-Blog-Census.jpg

Categories

Administrative Announcements
Administrative Law
Admiralty
Advertising
Agricultural Law
Anonymity
Antitrust
Architecture
Articles and Books
Bankruptcy
Behavioral Law and Economics
Bioethics
Blogging
Book Reviews
Capital Punishment
Civil Procedure
Civil Rights
Conferences
Constitutional Law
Consumer Protection Law
Contract Law & Beyond
Corporate Law
Criminal Law
Criminal Procedure
Culture
Current Events
Cyberlaw
DRM
Economic Analysis of Law
Education
Empirical Analysis of Law
Employment Law
Environmental Law
Family Law
Feminism and Gender
First Amendment
Food
Google & Search Engines
Health Law
History of Law
Humor
Immigration
Insurance Law
Intellectual Property
International & Comparative Law
Interviews
Jurisprudence
Law and Humanities
Law and Inequality
Law and Psychology
Law Practice
Law Professor Blogger Census
Law Rev (Boston College)
Law Rev (Boston University)
Law Rev (California)
Law Rev (Chicago)
Law Rev (Columbia)
Law Rev (Cornell)
Law Rev (Duke)
Law Rev (Emory)
Law Rev (Fordham)
Law Rev (Georgetown)
Law Rev (GW)
Law Rev (Harvard)
Law Rev (Illinois)
Law Rev (Indiana)
Law Rev (Michigan)
Law Rev (Minnesota)
Law Rev (Northwestern)
Law Rev (Notre Dame)
Law Rev (NYU)
Law Rev (Penn)
Law Rev (S Cal)
Law Rev (Stanford)
Law Rev (Texas)
Law Rev (UCLA)
Law Rev (Vanderbilt)
Law Rev (Virginia)
Law Rev (Wash U)
Law Rev (Yale)
Law Rev Contents
Law Rev Forum
Law School
Law School (Hiring & Laterals)
Law School (Law Reviews)
Law School (Rankings)
Law School (Scholarship)
Law School (Teaching)
Law Student Discussions
Law Talk
Legal Ethics
Legal Theory
Media Law
Movies & Television
Philosophy of Social Science
Politics
Privacy
Privacy (Consumer Privacy)
Privacy (Electronic Surveillance)
Privacy (Gossip & Shaming)
Privacy (ID Theft)
Privacy (Law Enforcement)
Privacy (Medical)
Privacy (National Security)
Property Law
Race
Religion
Reparations
Science Fiction
Securities
Social Network Websites
Sociology of Law
Supreme Court
Tax
Teaching
Technology
Tort Law
Web 2.0
Weird
Wiki
Wills, Trusts, and Estates

Recent Comments

Daniel J. Solove on More Statistics on Law Professor Hiring

tom on More Statistics on Law Professor Hiring

anon on More Statistics on Law Professor Hiring

anon on More Statistics on Law Professor Hiring

Alfred on More Statistics on Law Professor Hiring

Archives

May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
November 2005
October 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005

 

« Honoring Veterans on Memorial Day | Main | Microsoft Gives Up on Book Search »

May 26, 2008

More Statistics on Law Professor Hiring

posted by Daniel J. Solove

Last week, I posted data about the success percentage of law professor teaching candidates who obtained their JDs from particular law schools for the 2006-07 and 2007-08 hiring seasons. This data was based on applicant totals by law school from AALS and applicant hired totals compiled by Larry Solum. Although Solum's data is incomplete (it is based on reports he receives from applicants and others), it is currently the best (and only) data about hiring I could find.

The data I posted last week focused on schools with a US News ranking of between 1 and 29. Here is data on schools not included in last week's data. In Table 1 below, I’ve included all schools (not already included in my previous post and charts) with 10 or more applicants combined for 2006-08 – an average of 5 or more per year. In Table 2 (after the continuation break), I list schools with fewer than 10 applicants for 2006-08 that had successful applicants.

What these tables show is that any school regardless of US News ranking can have successful applicants. Some of the schools below have placed more successful applicants than a number of schools in the top 20.

TABLE 1

Table 1 includes all schools not included in my previous post (i.e. those having a US News ranking below 29) with 10 or more applicants combined for 2006-08 – an average of 5 or more per year.

LAW SCHOOL TOTAL JD APPLICANTS 2006-08 JD APPLICANTS HIRED 2006-08 % HIRED 2006-08
Tulane 25 5 20%
Case Western 15 2 13%
Florida 18 2 11%
Cincinnati 10 1 10%
Texas Southern 10 1 10%
Howard 11 1 9%
Rutgers (Camden, Newark) 15 1 6%
Wisconsin 16 1 6%
Syracuse 10 0 0%
Northeastern 11 0 0%
UNC 12 0 0%
Brooklyn 12 0 0%
Hofstra 12 0 0%
Ohio State 14 0 0%
Temple 15 0 0%
Suffolk 17 0 0%
U.C. Hastings 19 0 0%
Indiana 22 0 0%
American University 27 0 0%

TABLE 2

Table 2 contains a list of schools that had under 10 total law professor teaching candidates in 2006-08 – an average of less than 5 per year – but that had one or more graduates hired during this time. I list these schools separately because they have sent so few to the teaching market that any one hire will have a dramatic effect on their success percentage. With numbers so low, the success percentage has little indicative value.

LAW SCHOOL TOTAL JD APPLICANTS 2006-08 JD APPLICANTS HIRED 2006-08 % HIRED 2006-08
Hawaii 2 1 50%
Georgia 7 3 43%
Villanova 3 1 33%
Connecticut 4 1 25%
U. Washington 4 1 25%
West Virginia 4 1 25%
Willamette 4 1 25%
Seton Hall 5 1 20%
Chicago Kent 5 1 20%
St. Thomas 5 1 20%
Kansas 6 1 17%
Arizona 6 1 17%
Brigham Young 6 1 17%
Denver 6 1 17%
St. Louis 6 1 17%
CUNY 7 1 14%
Albany 7 1 14%
William & Mary 9 1 11%

Posted by Daniel J. Solove at May 26, 2008 08:07 PM

Trackback Pings

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.concurringopinions.com/movabletype/mt-tb.cgi/3694.

Comments

Dan--thanks for this. You're doing a great service, as always.

These data are sobering. And I hope we'll talk some about what this means to our profession.

One question, though, did you think about using the AALS directory instead of Solum's report? My thought is that you might go through all the people in the 2006-07 registry and see who appears in the 2007-08 AALS directory.

That obviously won't pick up people who're hired in 2007-08, but for the earlier years, I'd imagine it's a complete record of who's been hired. Also, it would pick up some people who obtained visiting positions and I'd think that would be desirable to include them in your tables, to give a fuller sense of who's able to "break into" the academy.

Posted by: Alfred at May 26, 2008 10:57 PM


"Some of the schools below have placed more successful applicants than a number of schools in the top 20."

Given that GW and Wash-St. Louis placed exactly zero, that is not hard. I think the more intuitive take from these numbers is that, unless you went to a top twenty school (really a top top 20 school), your chance of breaking into the legal academy is no more than 10% at most. The fact that that abysmal chance is true of several top twenty schools also, is cold comfort.

Posted by: anon at May 26, 2008 11:53 PM


A brief point--could you be double-counting candidates? That is, if someone was on the market in 06-07, and then again in 07-08, would you have counted them twice, making it look like there were more candidates from a school than there actually were? This could skew your results slightly. (This may be what Alfred was alluding to.)

Posted by: anon at May 27, 2008 08:26 AM


Hmm...actually, you repeated a school that you had in your previous post...namely, Boston College, which is still within the top 30 US News Report (26? or something like that).
Why was that?

Posted by: tom at May 27, 2008 08:10 PM


Tom -- my mistake. I've now deleted BC from the table in this post.

Posted by: Daniel J. Solove at May 27, 2008 08:13 PM


Post a comment




Remember Me?

(you may use HTML tags for style)

Authors

Daniel J. Solove

Website
Understanding Privacy

Kaimipono Wenger

Website
SSRN Page

Dave Hoffman

Website
SSRN Page

Nate Oman

Website
SSRN Page

Frank Pasquale

Website
SSRN Page

Deven Desai

Website
SSRN Page


Guests

William Birdthistle
Elaine Chiu
David Fontana
James Grimmelmann
Anita S. Krishnakumar
William McGeveran
Michael O'Shea






ad-logo3.jpg

blawg100_winner2.jpg

Previous Guests

Michael Abramowicz
Michelle Adams
Robert Ahdieh
Michelle Anderson
Laura Appleman
Francesca Bignami
Jeremy Blumenthal
Bruce Boyden
Donald Braman
Al Brophy
Bill Burke-White
Scott Burris
Anupam Chander
Miriam Cherry
Jack Chin
Jennifer Collins
Allison Danner
Brannon Denning
Deven Desai
Mike Dimino
Christine Haight Farley
Kim Ferzan
Dan Filler
Amanda Frost
Timothy Glynn
Rachel Godsil
Eric Goldman
Craig Green
Jeffrey Harrison
Erica Hashimoto
Laura Heymann
Christine Hurt
Dan Kahan
Sam Kamin
Heidi Kitrosser
Adam Kolber
Russell Korobkin
Anita S. Krishnakumar
Greg Lastowka
Joseph Liu
Solangel Maldonado
Jason Mazzone
William McGeveran
Salil Mehra
Carrie Menkel-Meadow
Scott Moss
Eric Muller
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Elizabeth Nowicki
Paul Ohm
Michael O'Shea
Rafael Pardo
Marcy Peek
Eduardo Peñalver
Neil RIchards
Lori Ringhand
Alice Ristroph
Paul Secunda
Peter Smith
Charles Sullivan
Rick Swedloff
Steph Tai
Robert Tsai
Steve Vladeck
Sarah Waldeck
Melissa Waters
Alfred Yen
David Zaring
Timothy Zick
Jonathan Zittrain

Blogroll

Above the Law
ACS Blog
Althouse
Balkinization
Becker-Posner Blog
Beltway Blogroll
BlackProf
BoingBoing
Chicago Law Faculty Blog
Conglomerate
Convictions
CrimLaw
Crime & Federalism
CrimProf Blog
Crooked Timber
Discourse.net
Dorf on Law
Election Law
Emergent Chaos
Feminist Law Profs
43(B)log
Freakonomics Blog
Freedom to Tinker
Google Blogoscoped
How Appealing
Ideoblog
Info/Law
Instapundit.com
JD2B.com
Juris Novus
Jurisdynamics
Law and Letters
Legal Profession Blog
Legal Theory Blog
Legal Times Blog
Leiter Reports
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
Lessig Blog
Madisonian
Mirror of Justice
National Security Advisors
Opinio Juris
Point of Law
Political Theory Daily Review
PrawfsBlawg
ProfessorBainbridge.com
Property Prof
Red Tape Chronicles
The Right Coast
Schneier on Security
SCOTUSBlog
Security Dilemmas
Sentencing Law and Policy
Simple Justice
Sivacracy.net
The Situationist
Susan Crawford
TalkLeft
Talking Points Memo
TaxProf Blog
Tech & Marketing Law
Truth on the Market
Volokh Conspiracy
WorkPlace Prof Blog
WSJ Law Blog
Wonkette
The Yin Blog

Pajamas Media BlogRoll Member