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March 12, 2008

The New Originalism: Answering the Questions Nobody Asks?

posted by Bruce Boyden

constitution_thumb_295_dark_gray_bg.jpgOriginalism is back in the blogs. Michael Dorf posted a brief column on Findlaw, Who Killed the "Living Constitution"?, followed by a comment from Larry Solum, a rejonder from Randy Barnett, a response from Dorf, and another reply from Barnett. (This follows the flurry of activity a couple of weeks ago on the meaning of "natural born citizen" -- see Jim Lindgren, Solum, Jack Balkin, and Solum). This debate is over "New Originalism," and how much New Originalism differs from Old Originalism or from "Living Constitutionalism" (presumed to be the only other choice -- more on that in some other post).

Balkin, Barnett, and Solum are all "New Originalists" -- originalists who stress, not the original intent of the authors of a particular legal text, which is unrecoverable in many instances, but rather its "original public meaning" -- the meaning that a given sentence would have been assigned by its audience at the time it was drafted. Over the past few years, in a book by Barnett, in two articles by Balkin, in numerous blog posts, and in various other places the general contours of New Originalism have been delineated. Broadly, New Originalism looks to original public meaning to the extent that is helpful; if not, then the interpreter of a constitutional provision is free to look elsewhere for meaning, such as the structure of the text, court precedents, or what have you. That latter process, drawing from the work of Keith Whittington, is called "construction," to differentiate it from "interpretation" of the Constitution, which (the story goes) requires looking only at original public meaning. New Originalism can therefore be thought of as a kind of Chevron two-step analysis for constitutional law: (1) Is there a clear original public meaning? (2) If not, is the proposed interpretation reasonable under other interpretive methods?

Dorf argues that, to the extent the analysis stops at Step One, New Originalism can produce some "odious" results, a remark Barnett takes him to task for. I would modify Dorf's concern to add that the problem is not so much "odious" results, but bizarre results; results not only out of step with where the law is, but out of step with any plausible account of where it's going--which is what would distinguish, in my mind, Sweatt v. Painter from a decision finding, for example, that the original public meaning of the letters of marque clause was to permit Congress to require the entire citizenry to wear chicken costumes on Sunday. Sure, that's ridiculous; but suppose we dug up incontrovertible evidence that that's what the public would have understood by it (what else could "letters of marque" mean?). Barnett is apparently willing to bite the bullet and say, well, if that's what the original public meaning was, we're stuck with it, until the Article V amendment process runs its course. Break out the chicken suits.

But although that debate is philosophically interesting, I don't think it's where the real action is, so resolution of that particular criticism of Dorf is not terribly important. Rather, my impression is that Barnett, Balkin, and Solum believe relatively few controversial questions will actually get resolved at Step One. (I should note that Balkin's Step One, by explicitly incorporating "principles," can be Step-Two-like. I don't think that fundamentally changes my analysis.) Rather, most questions will be proceeding to Step Two.

And Dorf's criticism there is, Step Two is not a heck of a lot different than Living Constitutionalism. Nearly all of the interesting constitutional interpretation issues jump immediately to Step Two--the nonoriginalist part of New Originalism. That is, all of the phrases of the Constitution that produce actual litigation--"equal protection of the laws," "due process," "commerce," "necessary and proper," "freedom of speech," "cruel and unusual punishment," etc.--all are vague, and therefore not susceptible to Step One resolution. Original public meaning can do nothing to resolve any of those disputes.

This, according to New Originalists, is actually a feature of their theory, not a bug. Original public meaning gives us the bedrock on which constitutional interpretation rests; it tells us that when the Constitution says "thirty-five years old," it can't be read to allow a president who is only thirty; it tells us that the obligation of the national government to protect states against "domestic violence" does not refer to spousal abuse. The problem is, no one argues those issues. There are no cases in which someone petitions the Supreme Court for a ruling on whether states should get three senators. New Originalism answers the questions no one asks.

That's actually fine, if New Originalism were meant as a blow in the battles between philosophers of language. Philosophers of language have been struggling for decades to figure out how simple sentences such as "The cat is on the mat" or "Water is wet" come to have the meanings they do (assuming they have any meaning at all). But I think it's fair to say that the promise of originalism has been far different than that. Rather than a theory of constitutional language, originalism has long been billed as a theory of interpretation--a theory that, when skillfully applied, will give us the answers to the really hard questions in constitutional law: is there a constitutional right to privacy? Why is Brown v. Board of Education rightly decided (or is it)? Is campaign spending free speech? Is it "necessary and proper" to the Commerce power for Congress to regulate home-grown wheat? What level of notice of a proceeding is required by due process?

The originalist part of New Originalism--Step One--does not provide answers to those questions. It only, as far as I can tell, makes us jump through an extra hoop before getting to where the action really is: non-originalist Step Two of the analysis, where courts and other interpreters can look at precedents, structure, history, context, public policy, and other sources of meaning.

If that's how New Originalism would work in practice, it's not even a second-best interpretive choice, as Barnett puts it. In most cases, it's simply an unnecessary hoop before the main action -- figuring out what the Constitution means today.

Posted by Bruce Boyden at March 12, 2008 06:48 PM

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You characterize "Step 1" problems as easy, like how old the President needs to be. But you ignore the part of Barnett's post where he says that "Step 1" actually resolves many supposedly difficult constitutional issues (e.g., commerce clause).

Posted by: 2L at March 12, 2008 07:37 PM


I'm not sure that's what he says, although maybe it's what he believes. Here's the relevant section of the post:

[H]owever large or small is "the domain of construction" is to be decided after we decide what meaning is conveyed by the text. I believe (a) that a great many cases would be decided by this meaning, (b) choices within the remaining domain of construction would still be bounded by this meaning, and (c) a good deal of constitutional law would still be required to put the meaning of the Constitution into effect.

What I'm not clear on is whether "a great many" cases is a large percentage or not. There are an awful lot of constitutional issues raised every year so even a small percentage might be "a great many." I'm also not clear on what percentage of the "great many" are hard cases, not "thirty-five means thirty-five" type cases. Looking through The Lost Constitution, the interpretation of "commerce" seems to me to be the one area where Barnett has a clear argument that the original public meaning alone can determine the outcome of widely contested cases.

Posted by: Bruce Boyden at March 13, 2008 01:07 AM


Although this has been pointed out; as we know from Chevron analysis, a lot also depends on how you draw the line around Step One. If you exhaust every device of figuring our the supposed public meaning, and have small armies of historians looking at it, you will predictably get two things: (1) some evidence of original public meaning at some level of generality; and (2) conflict within the evidence. And good lawyers can pretty much always find ways to spin this additional data either for or against going to Step Two.

For example, until the John McCain flap showed up, a clause that most people might think would be subject to Step One analysis would be the "natural born citizen" clause.

Posted by: TJ at March 13, 2008 05:08 AM


"That is, all of the phrases of the Constitution that produce actual litigation--'equal protection of the laws,' [&c.] ... all are vague, and therefore not susceptible to Step One resolution. Original public meaning can do nothing to resolve any of those disputes."

For one example of how original-public-meaning interpretation (though I'd prefer "textually-expressed sense") can make a difference to the clauses that people really care about, see here and here, arguing that the historic textually-expressed sense of the Equal Protection Clause is an entitlement to the "protection of the law," i.e., law-enforcement and remedial services. (The Privileges or Immunities Clause is what protects against second-class citizenship.)

Posted by: Chris at March 13, 2008 08:57 AM


The extensive discussion of the original meaning of the Second Amendment in Heller also illustrates the importance of original meaning in actual litigation.

For Brown, see the second half of this.

Posted by: Chris at March 13, 2008 09:22 AM


Not to get all Monty Python here, but is there anyone who thinks that historical inquiries into the beliefs of those who lived in the past are really objective enterprises that can be resolved without major interjections of the contemporary values of the historian? In which case, what exactly is the difference between steps one and two? And isn't that largely the point that's been made about Chevron?

Or is deconstructionism "out" again among historians? It's been a while for me since my sophomore tutorial.

Posted by: bdg at March 13, 2008 10:37 AM


You don't have to be a deconstructionist to believe that serious history frequently raises at least as many questions as it answers, or at least that it often cannot provide the type of certain answers that lawyers would like it too.

Posted by: Joseph Slater at March 13, 2008 11:08 AM


"[I]s there anyone who thinks that historical inquiries into the beliefs of those who lived in the past are really objective enterprises that can be resolved without major interjections of the contemporary values of the historian?"

[Tentatively raises hand.] I don't think that understanding what someone has said in a previous generation is any different as a conceptual matter from understanding what someone said across the breakfast table. It might be difficult, but that's no excuse for not making an effort. If it's possible to ascertain the beliefs of blog commenters in an objective way, then it's possible to do the same thing with the 39th Congress (or the 42nd).

I think we need an extremely powerful showing to support a claim that the historical record cannot establish what particular language means. That said, I think an assessment of the referent of constitutional language generally depends on factual determinations about which the framers could be ignorant, or even wrong. See here.

Posted by: Chris at March 13, 2008 11:23 AM


I would add that the issue is not whether the historical record cannot establish meaning. It is whether it will not. Hercules isn't walking through that door. The historical record will be assessed by justices (and researchers) with their own preferences. Is there any reason to think that they will get it right in an unbiased way. When Calabresi and Barnett disagree so much on original meaning, is there any reason to think it will be determined with any objectivity?

Posted by: frank cross at March 13, 2008 12:23 PM


"Hercules isn't walking through that door." That's a reason to spend more time working to put better historical material before judges, not a reason to give up the effort as hopeless. As I see it, the legal academy ought to be working to make the judiciary more Herculean.

Posted by: Chris at March 13, 2008 12:46 PM


Its not so much that we can't divine what particular language meant in the late 18th century, but that the most controversial issues of political morality and the proper role of the federal government were as contested then as they are now. In that sense, there often isn't an answer, historically speaking, to the sorts of questions that get litigated. As Merrill Jensen has written in The New Nation: A History of the United States During the Confederation, 1781-1787,

“Since the founding fathers themselves disagreed as to the nature of the history of the period and as to the best kind of government for a new nation, it is possible to find arguments to support almost any interpretation one chooses. It is not surprising therefore that conflicting interpretations have filled thousands of pages and that all this effort has never produced any final answers and probably never will, for men have ever interpreted [the Constitution] in terms of their hopes, interests, and beliefs rather than in terms of knowable facts. . . . When the Constitution was submitted to the public in October 1787 the controversy rose to new heights. Men talked in public meetings and wrote private letters and public essays in an effort to explain, justify, or denounce what the Convention had done. . . . Some said there would be chaos without the new Constitution; others said that there would be chaos if it were adopted. . . . The two basic interpretations may be simply stated. Jefferson held that the central government was sharply limited by the letter of the Constitution; that in effect the states retained their sovereign powers except where they were specifically delegated. Hamilton argued in effect that the central government was a national government which could not be restrained by a strict interpretation of the Constitution or by ideas of state sovereignty.”

Posted by: anon at March 13, 2008 08:59 PM


"[T]here often isn't an answer, historically speaking, to the sorts of questions that get litigated."

I don't think we can say this confidently unless we've dug through the evidence ourselves. It will also depend on the issue, of course. Above I linked to my two papers offering an answer to the basic interpretive question about the Equal Protection Clause, and explaining why that answer would be relevant to lots of litigation today. Having looked at the details on that issue, there are some bits of evidence that considered in isolation favor the traditional view, but I think that they are swamped by evidence in favor of a duty-to-protect view. Similarly, I don't think we can infer just from the fact that Hamilton and Jefferson disagreed that neither of them had a better argument on the basis of the constitutional text. The existence of reasonably strong arguments on both sides isn't the same as evidentiary equipoise.

Posted by: Chris at March 13, 2008 10:29 PM


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