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	<title>Comments on: The Future of Sensory Jurisprudence</title>
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		<title>By: dave hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orin,

I agree that misjudging the reliability of evidence is not a new problem.  What I suggested in the post, perhaps not as clearly as I&#039;d hoped, is that there are unique problems when judges directly use such evidence - instead of rhetoric &amp; logic &amp; persuasion - in their opinions. (Thus, this isn&#039;t the issue of interpretation of visual evidence, but rather literally embedding videos into opinions.)

As for TSS, I guess reading some of my co-bloggers, I thought it was a term of art dramatizing the loss of privacy associated with the increasing ability to watch &amp; record (either literally or through an electronic record) strangers&#039; lives.  Maybe Solove has a better, more precise, and less grand definition.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orin,</p>
<p>I agree that misjudging the reliability of evidence is not a new problem.  What I suggested in the post, perhaps not as clearly as I&#8217;d hoped, is that there are unique problems when judges directly use such evidence &#8211; instead of rhetoric &#038; logic &#038; persuasion &#8211; in their opinions. (Thus, this isn&#8217;t the issue of interpretation of visual evidence, but rather literally embedding videos into opinions.)</p>
<p>As for TSS, I guess reading some of my co-bloggers, I thought it was a term of art dramatizing the loss of privacy associated with the increasing ability to watch &#038; record (either literally or through an electronic record) strangers&#8217; lives.  Maybe Solove has a better, more precise, and less grand definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Orin Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orin Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I don&#039;t think I understand your argument.  You express a fear that judges may misinterpret evidence, and will think that a modest amount of evidence is actually more evidence than they think.  But isn&#039;t that always an issue with any kind of fact-finding with any new kind of evidence, whether it&#039;s DNA evidence, fingerprints, computer forensics, surveillance tapes, whether determined by judges or juries? Fact finders may think these forms of evidence mean a lot; on the other hand, judges may make the equally serious error of thinking they mean less than they do. I don&#039;t see any reason to think judges or juries are systematically getting these things wrong.

As an aside, I have no idea what &quot;the total surveillance society&quot; is.  I realize this kind of grand rhetoric is rather fashionable in some circles (see, e.g, Balkin &amp; Levinson), but I never understand what it actually means.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think I understand your argument.  You express a fear that judges may misinterpret evidence, and will think that a modest amount of evidence is actually more evidence than they think.  But isn&#8217;t that always an issue with any kind of fact-finding with any new kind of evidence, whether it&#8217;s DNA evidence, fingerprints, computer forensics, surveillance tapes, whether determined by judges or juries? Fact finders may think these forms of evidence mean a lot; on the other hand, judges may make the equally serious error of thinking they mean less than they do. I don&#8217;t see any reason to think judges or juries are systematically getting these things wrong.</p>
<p>As an aside, I have no idea what &#8220;the total surveillance society&#8221; is.  I realize this kind of grand rhetoric is rather fashionable in some circles (see, e.g, Balkin &#038; Levinson), but I never understand what it actually means.</p>
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