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The New Facebook Ads — Starring You: Another Privacy Debacle?

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  1. MD lawyer says:

    * The day I find my name in a Facebook ad is the day I cancel my account. It’s already creepy that they encourage you to store your credit card information on their servers, and that they ask for IM and e-mail account passwords from you to import your contact lists. This is too much.

    * I wonder if anyone will be able to start developing ads that allow negative feedback about businesses. I can imagine an “iHate” application that notifies friends “John Smith hates Blockbuster Video. Add the iHate application to see why…”

    * It seems like this sort of thing has been coming for a while. Most people have very few pieces of information that are truly “secret,” and any notion of “privacy” probably comes from the fact that any given person or business only has a few snippets of information about any given person. If the entire business community got together and pooled their information that I’ve shared with them over the years, they’d probably know everything there is to know about me… which freaks me out. Perhaps now I’ll read your book… and in the process give amazon more information about me.

  2. gr says:

    “The day I find my name in a Facebook ad is the day I cancel my account.”

    Your name will be shown to others. You wont see it.

  3. Wow, I agree that this sure sounds like tortious appropriation. It seems an awfully big stretch to convert the fact that you like a product and you agree to tell friends that you like it into consent to appear in ads for the product.

    I also note (from Dan’s casebook, actually) the famous New York appropriation statute, which creates both a criminal misdemeanor and a civil cause of action for “a person whose name, portrait, picture or voice is used within this state for advertising purposes … without the written consent first obtained.”

    That’s a requirement for an affirmative and written opt-in. Based on the NY Times account, Facebook is violating it. Quick, somebody call Andrew Cuomo…

  4. Supra says:

    It’s also notable how easily we adjust to gradual erosions of our privacy. Facebook’s “news feeds” are now the norm – they are practically what defines Facebook. More painfully, they’re one of the most useful features of the site. (To be fair, you can limit what networks receive your feeds, and even “hide” feeds.)

    If Facebook can push Social Ads into users’ consciousness (and get legal consent, which shouldn’t be tough), I doubt users will be fazed for long. Which will make it even smoother for other sites that decide it’s a brilliant marketing tool.

  5. Joel says:

    I knew this day was coming.

    The sad fact is their TOS agreement specifically says they can (and will) do what they want with any info you give them. It becomes their property.

  6. WimblyWombat says:

    I think the term “reasonable expectation” comes in here. Your ratings are usually used for surveys. We do not expect survey companies to use our information in this way — such data is usually used in an aggragated form, with individual preferences anonymised.

    So, using data in this way goes beyond what I would think would be reasonably assumed.

  7. gemils says:

    I think that one thing not enough people do in this lovely digital age is read the TOU / EULA information that sites and products ask you to agree with. From Facebook:

    “By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing.”

    Sounds like if you agree to use the site, you agree to let them use anything that you post as they see fit. Ooops.

  8. Tony says:

    The day my picture appears in an AD, is the day they are slapped with a lawsuit. If I see other adds, I simply use Adblock and block em all. Screw ads, I’m just trying to catch up with old friends.

  9. Adam says:

    IANAL but….

    Companies like to write all sorts of things into their TOS/EULA which are not enforceable. They use it to bully uninformed people into doing what they want, regardless of what the law allows.

    For example, lets take something that MD Lawyer said. Imagine that I was stupid enough to actually give them my credit card number. Since that is, presumably, User Content, a particularly shifty person could argue that it is well within the bounds of the TOS to take that information and use it in the connection with the Site, say to buy a new router or to pay for today’s bandwidth. I don’t care what their TOS says, that still makes them thieves.

    They might also choose to cherry pick which user content they want to use to create their derivative works. For all we know, they used only 2 pieces of content create their example ad: the name and picture of Megan Marks. Doing so, even though its a legitimate use of that user content is, IMHO, identity theft and should be treated as such. In fact, I consider the whole idea as identity theft.

  10. Vision says:

    Well it certainly wouldn’t be the first time Facebook has stooped to shady business practices. If you look at their TOS you will notice that they claim only people 16+ can join and yet when I visited their advertising link last week and got some stats for one of the polls they implemented for an advertiser you could see that in the graphs, MANY of the participants were in the 13-17 category.

    So Facebook is already getting rich off of and profiting by and exploiting minors by using their poll responsises for advertisers. I guess they figure now everyone else their is good to exploit as well. And furthermore, if Facebook claims that only people 16 years and up can join, then where are they getting these stats for the 13-17 year olds?!? Exactly, they no very well that they have many minors on their site and they are more then happy to capitolize on it.

  11. Vision says:

    Sorry for the double post but it would appear as though FB has recently changed their age of eligibility. Last week it was 16+ and NOW it is 13+.

    Regardless, they are still exploiting minors. What next? Schools start polling 9 year olds for advertisers to find out kids’ favorite toys to make the school some extra coin? Facebook is dangerous and getting worse by the day with their invasion of privacy practices.

  12. Bobby says:

    Maybe we should just call it FaceCrook instead. They’re pimping us big time. They make money off us and we get nada. Sounds like YouTube all over again. I’m closing my account and going back to Myspace.

  13. Shamus says:

    I deleted my Facebook account this morning. It was starting to feel too much like Brave New World meets the Borg.