Comments on: Max Roach, Jazz Great Dies at 83 http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html The Law, the Universe, and Everything Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:51:16 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Patrick S. O'Donnell http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52782 Patrick S. O'Donnell Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:15:42 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52782 Deven, That's it! Thanks so much for finding it. I knew it (way back when) under its alternative title, A World of Strangers. Information on the film is available from the director's (Henning Carlsen) website: http://henningcarlsen.com/dilemma You can click on the trailer. It seems I got the album wrong: "As background music you hear Max Roach (drums) and Abbey Lincoln (vocal) from their record 'Freedom Now Suite' from 1960." A wonderful film everyone should see.... Deven,

That’s it! Thanks so much for finding it. I knew it (way back when) under its alternative title, A World of Strangers. Information on the film is available from the director’s (Henning Carlsen) website: http://henningcarlsen.com/dilemma You can click on the trailer. It seems I got the album wrong: “As background music you hear Max Roach (drums) and Abbey Lincoln (vocal) from their record ‘Freedom Now Suite’ from 1960.” A wonderful film everyone should see….

]]> By: Dissent http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52781 Dissent Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:13:00 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52781 Paul: thank you for finding that film. I don't recall ever hearing of "Dilemma" before. Good to know about. Paul: thank you for finding that film. I don’t recall ever hearing of “Dilemma” before. Good to know about.

]]> By: Deven http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52780 Deven Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:07:12 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52780 Patrick, Thanks for pointing folks to the L.A. Times piece. A little IMDB search suggests that the film you seek may be Dilemma (1962/II) -- the parenthetical is the IMDB notation to distinguish films of the same title. Here is the link http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056702/. Apparently based on the novel A World of Strangers by Nobel laureate Nadine Gordimer. Paul, Great tip about the album! Thanks much. -Deven Patrick,

Thanks for pointing folks to the L.A. Times piece.

A little IMDB search suggests that the film you seek may be Dilemma (1962/II) — the parenthetical is the IMDB notation to distinguish films of the same title. Here is the link http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056702/. Apparently based on the novel A World of Strangers by Nobel laureate Nadine Gordimer.

Paul,

Great tip about the album! Thanks much.

-Deven

]]> By: Paul Gowder http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52779 Paul Gowder Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:20:12 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52779 And if anyone wants a really WILD Max Roach album, check out M'boom. It's worth it. And if anyone wants a really WILD Max Roach album, check out M’boom. It’s worth it.

]]> By: Patrick S. O'Donnell http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52778 Patrick S. O'Donnell Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:44:44 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52778 No, it was before that movie and in black and white, containing documentary-like although unapproved because not officially censored footage from South Africa of the time. I don't think it contained any readily recognizable movie stars or big names. [And sorry for the two posts: I intended the second, edited version of the first, which I did not realize got posted.] No, it was before that movie and in black and white, containing documentary-like although unapproved because not officially censored footage from South Africa of the time. I don’t think it contained any readily recognizable movie stars or big names. [And sorry for the two posts: I intended the second, edited version of the first, which I did not realize got posted.]

]]> By: Dissent http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52777 Dissent Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:49:53 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52777 Patrick: are you thinking of the movie, "Cry Freedom" with Denzel Washington and Kevin Kline? That has the plot you're describing, but Roach didn't do the sound sound track as far as I remember. Roach contributed to another series by the same name later on, though, and of course, he had the Freedom Now Suite. Thanks for the tribute to Roach, Deven. I was a fan of his, and used to spend summer vacations at jazz festivals and jam sessions. Getting to hear him play with Blakey, Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes... well... drugs were superfluous. :) Law and jazz: there's a structure and some rules but you can get really creative as long as you manage to get back to where you're supposed to be going. Does that help? :) Patrick: are you thinking of the movie, “Cry Freedom” with Denzel Washington and Kevin Kline? That has the plot you’re describing, but Roach didn’t do the sound sound track as far as I remember. Roach contributed to another series by the same name later on, though, and of course, he had the Freedom Now Suite.

Thanks for the tribute to Roach, Deven. I was a fan of his, and used to spend summer vacations at jazz festivals and jam sessions. Getting to hear him play with Blakey, Elvin Jones, Roy Haynes… well… drugs were superfluous. :)

Law and jazz: there’s a structure and some rules but you can get really creative as long as you manage to get back to where you’re supposed to be going. Does that help? :)

]]> By: Patrick S. O'Donnell http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/08/max_roach_jazz.html/comment-page-1#comment-52776 Patrick S. O'Donnell Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:23:36 +0000 http://www.solove.org/archives/2007/08/max-roach-jazz-great-dies-at-83.html#comment-52776 Deven, Thanks for this fitting and moving tribute. Unfortunately my speakers aren't working.... There's an equally moving obituary piece by Don Heckman in today's Los Angeles Times. A film I saw some time ago (can't recall title), and to the best of my memory was a story of an English publisher's representative who is sent to work in the South African office during the apartheid era (1960s?) only to become "politicized" in the best sense of the term. The soundtrack was haunting and unforgettable, and I soon learned that most (all?) of it was by Max Roach. Check out Percussion Bitter Sweet (1961 or 1962?). It really does help one keep (or put) things in perspective. (And if in spite of the paucity of clues someone happens to know the name of this film, could you please let me know.) Deven,

Thanks for this fitting and moving tribute. Unfortunately my speakers aren’t working…. There’s an equally moving obituary piece by Don Heckman in today’s Los Angeles Times.

A film I saw some time ago (can’t recall title), and to the best of my memory was a story of an English publisher’s representative who is sent to work in the South African office during the apartheid era (1960s?) only to become “politicized” in the best sense of the term. The soundtrack was haunting and unforgettable, and I soon learned that most (all?) of it was by Max Roach. Check out Percussion Bitter Sweet (1961 or 1962?). It really does help one keep (or put) things in perspective. (And if in spite of the paucity of clues someone happens to know the name of this film, could you please let me know.)

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