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	<title>Comments on: Fair Use Excuse Abuse on the Loose?</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sympathetic to DL and ATL on the copyright claim, but I don&#039;t see the relevance of the song&#039;s alleged self-parodic character.  (The song is objectively idiotic, but not, from NP&#039;s point of view, subjectively idiotic.)  If the fact of the video means that fair use is a likely conclusion, can the thing ever be infringed?  Is this something akin to an individual having such an objectively awful reputation that s/he is allegedly defamation-proof?  I also don&#039;t see the strong public interest in revealing the video.  Had we all *not* seen the video or heard the song, absolutely nothing about our lives would be different (except, perhaps, for the deadweight loss associated with all of the blogging about the thing).

That said, the secrecy angle (though not a privacy angle, and not necessarily a &quot;confidences&quot; one a la Epstein) seems to be the right take.  Nixon Peabody, like H&amp;R, had a secret that it wanted to share with the world on its own terms (H&amp;R) or not at all (NP).  The H&amp;R case is at least odd and perhaps wrong either because the alleged secret wasn&#039;t really secret (read Bill Patry&#039;s fair use book on this), or because some things are simply so important that they ought never to be secret at all (metaphorically and in a small way, H&amp;R may have been repeating Nixon&#039;s error: the attempted cover-up was worse than the &quot;crime&quot;).  NP&#039;s position is arguably stronger than H&amp;R&#039;s.  Economic value or no economic value, there&#039;s no normative reason that NP shouldn&#039;t be able to assert that the song and video *are* (or were) secrets.  Affairs of state don&#039;t hang in the balance.  The fact that DL is only a post-hoc enabler, and that NP might locate and pursue the leaker(s), doesn&#039;t weaken *NP&#039;s* interest.  The problem facing both NP and H&amp;R, as Matt concludes, is that both copyright and trade secret law are poor fits for this argument.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sympathetic to DL and ATL on the copyright claim, but I don&#8217;t see the relevance of the song&#8217;s alleged self-parodic character.  (The song is objectively idiotic, but not, from NP&#8217;s point of view, subjectively idiotic.)  If the fact of the video means that fair use is a likely conclusion, can the thing ever be infringed?  Is this something akin to an individual having such an objectively awful reputation that s/he is allegedly defamation-proof?  I also don&#8217;t see the strong public interest in revealing the video.  Had we all *not* seen the video or heard the song, absolutely nothing about our lives would be different (except, perhaps, for the deadweight loss associated with all of the blogging about the thing).</p>
<p>That said, the secrecy angle (though not a privacy angle, and not necessarily a &#8220;confidences&#8221; one a la Epstein) seems to be the right take.  Nixon Peabody, like H&#038;R, had a secret that it wanted to share with the world on its own terms (H&#038;R) or not at all (NP).  The H&#038;R case is at least odd and perhaps wrong either because the alleged secret wasn&#8217;t really secret (read Bill Patry&#8217;s fair use book on this), or because some things are simply so important that they ought never to be secret at all (metaphorically and in a small way, H&#038;R may have been repeating Nixon&#8217;s error: the attempted cover-up was worse than the &#8220;crime&#8221;).  NP&#8217;s position is arguably stronger than H&#038;R&#8217;s.  Economic value or no economic value, there&#8217;s no normative reason that NP shouldn&#8217;t be able to assert that the song and video *are* (or were) secrets.  Affairs of state don&#8217;t hang in the balance.  The fact that DL is only a post-hoc enabler, and that NP might locate and pursue the leaker(s), doesn&#8217;t weaken *NP&#8217;s* interest.  The problem facing both NP and H&#038;R, as Matt concludes, is that both copyright and trade secret law are poor fits for this argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Sag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Sag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion harper &amp; row is best understood as a kind of mutant trade secret case - it simply makes no sense as a fair use decision. Salinger is likewise best thought of as an unfortunate sequel to H&amp;R, put right by Congress in its 1992 amendment to Sec. 107.

I should be clear, the law firm would have a good trade secret law claim if it derived some  non-reputation-based  economic value from this song not being generally known. My comments relate purely to the copyright claim.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion harper &#038; row is best understood as a kind of mutant trade secret case &#8211; it simply makes no sense as a fair use decision. Salinger is likewise best thought of as an unfortunate sequel to H&#038;R, put right by Congress in its 1992 amendment to Sec. 107.</p>
<p>I should be clear, the law firm would have a good trade secret law claim if it derived some  non-reputation-based  economic value from this song not being generally known. My comments relate purely to the copyright claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Lederman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Lederman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it a bit odd to be discussing this without any mention of Harper &amp; Row and the Salinger case, in each of which there were even clearer &quot;public interests in revealing it to the world?&quot;  Do you think that those cases were wrongly decided, Frank?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it a bit odd to be discussing this without any mention of Harper &#038; Row and the Salinger case, in each of which there were even clearer &#8220;public interests in revealing it to the world?&#8221;  Do you think that those cases were wrongly decided, Frank?</p>
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