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		<title>By: Ann Bartow</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53018</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Bartow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point of my reaction was, at least at first, to note that you have completely excluded law prof blogs that eschew turning over our reader information to a pseudonymous right wing blogger.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point of my reaction was, at least at first, to note that you have completely excluded law prof blogs that eschew turning over our reader information to a pseudonymous right wing blogger.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ann.

But this is why we reported both numbers.  TLB makes it easy to see what traffic scores are, and then offers a measure to compare with.

I myself am not clear whether incoming traffic, links, or technorati&#039;s total link score, is more &quot;reliable&quot; as a measure of influence/popularity/or what have you. And I&#039;d be pleased if this post motivated folks to come up with their own lists - indeed, that is why I asked Sam to make the list in an excel file which you can download and play with. Or simply make up your own.  The point of this post was not to make any claims about quality, as I expressly said.  Indeed, I thought one of the neat things that this analysis may have exposed is that the various law blogs are flourishing in entirely different communities of readers.

-DAH.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann.</p>
<p>But this is why we reported both numbers.  TLB makes it easy to see what traffic scores are, and then offers a measure to compare with.</p>
<p>I myself am not clear whether incoming traffic, links, or technorati&#8217;s total link score, is more &#8220;reliable&#8221; as a measure of influence/popularity/or what have you. And I&#8217;d be pleased if this post motivated folks to come up with their own lists &#8211; indeed, that is why I asked Sam to make the list in an excel file which you can download and play with. Or simply make up your own.  The point of this post was not to make any claims about quality, as I expressly said.  Indeed, I thought one of the neat things that this analysis may have exposed is that the various law blogs are flourishing in entirely different communities of readers.</p>
<p>-DAH.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Bartow</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53016</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Bartow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoohee Dave, you need to read up on TTLB&#039;s metrics.   Here is one very dated overview:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/01/blog_ranking_metrics/

Here is a more recent take:

http://serandez.blogspot.com/2007/07/ecosystem-thoughts_11.html

Note the part that says: &quot;I guess what surprises me most is that the rankings go strictly by the number of incoming links. Traffic plays no role in the TTLB rankings. (Technorati uses some combination of the two.)&quot;

I was really surprised by that, because as evidenced by my comment in our discussion at FLP I thought TTLB used both links and page loads, as Technorati does. So I checked the TTLB website and the TTLB FAQ (http://truthlaidbear.com/FAQ.php) says:

&quot;The TTLB Blogosphere Ecosystem is an application which scans weblogs and generates a list of weblogs ranked by the number of incoming links they receive from other weblogs on the list.&quot;

There is a completely independent &quot;Ecotraffic&quot; counter that TTLB will use to republish Sitemeter data if you are not concerned about reader/commenter privacy issues. I am.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoohee Dave, you need to read up on TTLB&#8217;s metrics.   Here is one very dated overview:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/01/blog_ranking_metrics/" rel="nofollow">http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2005/01/blog_ranking_metrics/</a></p>
<p>Here is a more recent take:</p>
<p><a href="http://serandez.blogspot.com/2007/07/ecosystem-thoughts_11.html" rel="nofollow">http://serandez.blogspot.com/2007/07/ecosystem-thoughts_11.html</a></p>
<p>Note the part that says: &#8220;I guess what surprises me most is that the rankings go strictly by the number of incoming links. Traffic plays no role in the TTLB rankings. (Technorati uses some combination of the two.)&#8221;</p>
<p>I was really surprised by that, because as evidenced by my comment in our discussion at FLP I thought TTLB used both links and page loads, as Technorati does. So I checked the TTLB website and the TTLB FAQ (<a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/FAQ.php" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/FAQ.php</a>) says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The TTLB Blogosphere Ecosystem is an application which scans weblogs and generates a list of weblogs ranked by the number of incoming links they receive from other weblogs on the list.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a completely independent &#8220;Ecotraffic&#8221; counter that TTLB will use to republish Sitemeter data if you are not concerned about reader/commenter privacy issues. I am.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Cross-posted from Feminist Law Profs, where this same discussion is ongoing]

Ann,

TTLB “ranks” FLP, but it does not list the traffic numbers, which is what our list is based on. For the same reason, we excluded patently-o.

Technorati offers, in my view, a very bad metric, because it includes blogroll links. Not that TLB offers a “good” system, just a convenient one, and one used by Roger in the previous posting on this topic on opinio juris.

dave

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Cross-posted from Feminist Law Profs, where this same discussion is ongoing]</p>
<p>Ann,</p>
<p>TTLB “ranks” FLP, but it does not list the traffic numbers, which is what our list is based on. For the same reason, we excluded patently-o.</p>
<p>Technorati offers, in my view, a very bad metric, because it includes blogroll links. Not that TLB offers a “good” system, just a convenient one, and one used by Roger in the previous posting on this topic on opinio juris.</p>
<p>dave</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Bartow</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53014</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Bartow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TTLB ranks Feminist Law Professors at #5802

or at least it did a few minutes when I used the search function here: http://truthlaidbear.com/ecosystem.php

Given the significantly right wing tilt of the blogger behind TTLB, I prefer not to give him Feminist Law Professor&#039;s page load stats by signing up with that site. FLP does have a Stat Counter (which is somewhat more protective of reader and commenter privacy than Sitemeter) and is FLP is also ranked by Technorati. You can find links to both at the bottom of the FLP blog.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TTLB ranks Feminist Law Professors at #5802</p>
<p>or at least it did a few minutes when I used the search function here: <a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/ecosystem.php" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/ecosystem.php</a></p>
<p>Given the significantly right wing tilt of the blogger behind TTLB, I prefer not to give him Feminist Law Professor&#8217;s page load stats by signing up with that site. FLP does have a Stat Counter (which is somewhat more protective of reader and commenter privacy than Sitemeter) and is FLP is also ranked by Technorati. You can find links to both at the bottom of the FLP blog.</p>
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		<title>By: dave hoffman</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53013</link>
		<dc:creator>dave hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that MoJ is an amazing blog.  But, like Patently-O, TLB appears to have trouble catching its traffic stats:

http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://mirrorofjustice.com

-Dave

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that MoJ is an amazing blog.  But, like Patently-O, TLB appears to have trouble catching its traffic stats:</p>
<p><a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://mirrorofjustice.com" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://mirrorofjustice.com</a></p>
<p>-Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tamanaha</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53012</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Tamanaha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is &quot;Mirror of Justice&quot;?

(a terrific blog on Catholic Legal Theory)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is &#8220;Mirror of Justice&#8221;?</p>
<p>(a terrific blog on Catholic Legal Theory)</p>
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		<title>By: Regus Patoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regus Patoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crouch was a practitioner, not a prof, when he started Patently O, and presumably still worked at MBHB when TLB began his project.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crouch was a practitioner, not a prof, when he started Patently O, and presumably still worked at MBHB when TLB began his project.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Childs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Childs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TortsProf (part of the LawProfessorBlogs network) is at around 260 hits (170 visits) per day, but appers not to be tracked by TLB.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TortsProf (part of the LawProfessorBlogs network) is at around 260 hits (170 visits) per day, but appers not to be tracked by TLB.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mary.  I encourage folks who got missed to post here. I&#039;ll come back in a day or so and update the lists with any new entrants.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mary.  I encourage folks who got missed to post here. I&#8217;ll come back in a day or so and update the lists with any new entrants.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Dudziak</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53008</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary Dudziak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for doing this -- this is interesting.

BlackProf was left out of the study, but it&#039;s tracked by TLB:  http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://blackprof.com.

If your blog isn&#039;t included in the data, you can find out whether it&#039;s tracked on TLB at this link:  http://truthlaidbear.com/ecosystem.php

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for doing this &#8212; this is interesting.</p>
<p>BlackProf was left out of the study, but it&#8217;s tracked by TLB:  <a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://blackprof.com" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://blackprof.com</a>.</p>
<p>If your blog isn&#8217;t included in the data, you can find out whether it&#8217;s tracked on TLB at this link:  <a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/ecosystem.php" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/ecosystem.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: patentee</title>
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		<dc:creator>patentee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here you go: http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://patentlyo.com.

Looks like Patently-O would fall right before Balkinization.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you go: <a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://patentlyo.com" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://patentlyo.com</a>.</p>
<p>Looks like Patently-O would fall right before Balkinization.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TLB doesn&#039;t appear to capture that blog so well:

http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://patentlaw.typepad.com

Probably because there is no sitemeter stats link on Professor Crouch&#039;s site.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TLB doesn&#8217;t appear to capture that blog so well:</p>
<p><a href="http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://patentlaw.typepad.com" rel="nofollow">http://truthlaidbear.com/showdetails.php?host=http://patentlaw.typepad.com</a></p>
<p>Probably because there is no sitemeter stats link on Professor Crouch&#8217;s site.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/07/law_professor_b_11.html/comment-page-1#comment-53005</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ll check and if there are errors will update soon.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll check and if there are errors will update soon.</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about Patently-O by Dennis Crouch (Missouri)?  It is run by a law professor, and I am sure gets more than 100 hits per day.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about Patently-O by Dennis Crouch (Missouri)?  It is run by a law professor, and I am sure gets more than 100 hits per day.</p>
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