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	<title>Comments on: US News Rankings For Newer Law Schools</title>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 06:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, Antioch Law School opened in 1972 and was fully accreditated but shut down in 1986 due to low bar passage rates of students (after mulitple attempts. The Council of DC opened DCSL (retaining Antioch&#039;s mission, PI focus, and faculty) and it became UDC-DCSL in 1996, was provisionally accredited in &#039;98, lost bid for full accreditation in &#039;03 but retained provisional status until receiving full accreditation in &#039;05.

Knowing the background, how would you rank it? I&#039;m curious as to its current reputation.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, Antioch Law School opened in 1972 and was fully accreditated but shut down in 1986 due to low bar passage rates of students (after mulitple attempts. The Council of DC opened DCSL (retaining Antioch&#8217;s mission, PI focus, and faculty) and it became UDC-DCSL in 1996, was provisionally accredited in &#8217;98, lost bid for full accreditation in &#8217;03 but retained provisional status until receiving full accreditation in &#8217;05.</p>
<p>Knowing the background, how would you rank it? I&#8217;m curious as to its current reputation.</p>
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		<title>By: WAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the typos

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the typos</p>
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		<title>By: WAL</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 06:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack, I hate snobbery as much as the next guy, but, honestly, however good they as educational institutions, when you get to the absolute lower rung here, a lot of these places generate money for their universities by screwing over their students.

They fudge employment numbers, collect tuition dollars, and then leave a lot of their students with a problematic job situation that the market is not big enough to handle.  To be fair, I think all law schools fudge this stuff a little to make themselves look good, but I don&#039;t think the picture Harvard paints to people considering attending it is anywhere near as misleading as some of the fourth tier schools; so I&#039;m not going to direct most of my criticism towards a places like it.  You don&#039;t need to be a snob--wanting to close some of those places comes as much from not wanting to have a bunch of bitter law graduates with 10s of thousands of dollars of debt and a horrible time finding a job as anything else.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack, I hate snobbery as much as the next guy, but, honestly, however good they as educational institutions, when you get to the absolute lower rung here, a lot of these places generate money for their universities by screwing over their students.</p>
<p>They fudge employment numbers, collect tuition dollars, and then leave a lot of their students with a problematic job situation that the market is not big enough to handle.  To be fair, I think all law schools fudge this stuff a little to make themselves look good, but I don&#8217;t think the picture Harvard paints to people considering attending it is anywhere near as misleading as some of the fourth tier schools; so I&#8217;m not going to direct most of my criticism towards a places like it.  You don&#8217;t need to be a snob&#8211;wanting to close some of those places comes as much from not wanting to have a bunch of bitter law graduates with 10s of thousands of dollars of debt and a horrible time finding a job as anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank:

In one sense, I agree with you.  We have too many lawyers.  But, why on earth should Harvard graduate 500 JDs each year?  I suppose that you only favor shutting down the lower tier law schools.  That assumes that the rankings are worth anything.  This obsession with rankings speaks volumes about our psychological disposition (a sad one at that). I think the better way to handle this matter is for the law schools to limit how many new JDs enter the market each year.  The medical schools have done a good job of this and have avoided any antitrust lawsuits (mainly due to preemption as in the Jung case). Enough of the snobbery.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p>In one sense, I agree with you.  We have too many lawyers.  But, why on earth should Harvard graduate 500 JDs each year?  I suppose that you only favor shutting down the lower tier law schools.  That assumes that the rankings are worth anything.  This obsession with rankings speaks volumes about our psychological disposition (a sad one at that). I think the better way to handle this matter is for the law schools to limit how many new JDs enter the market each year.  The medical schools have done a good job of this and have avoided any antitrust lawsuits (mainly due to preemption as in the Jung case). Enough of the snobbery.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like there is a need for more law schools... The ABA needs to shut down half the law schools as they are not needed. We have far too many lawyers that have no business in the field as it is and it has gotten way to easy to get into law school.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like there is a need for more law schools&#8230; The ABA needs to shut down half the law schools as they are not needed. We have far too many lawyers that have no business in the field as it is and it has gotten way to easy to get into law school.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Wasserman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Wasserman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:

On the list of Peer Rankings, you left off FIU, which came in at (I believe) 1.5.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:</p>
<p>On the list of Peer Rankings, you left off FIU, which came in at (I believe) 1.5.</p>
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