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	<title>Comments on: Improper Closing Arguments During Criminal Trials</title>
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		<title>By: Better Remain Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Better Remain Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 19:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit off your point but one of the problems I see is that many prosecutors don&#039;t cross-examine well, especially when they cross-ex defendants.  Too often they argue with the witness, ask &quot;why&quot; questions, or belabor a point unnecessarily to try to get the witness to admit what he&#039;s denied instead of just trying to lead the witness into an absurdity, and making the point on closing argument.

(I&#039;ll be anonymous for this one)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit off your point but one of the problems I see is that many prosecutors don&#8217;t cross-examine well, especially when they cross-ex defendants.  Too often they argue with the witness, ask &#8220;why&#8221; questions, or belabor a point unnecessarily to try to get the witness to admit what he&#8217;s denied instead of just trying to lead the witness into an absurdity, and making the point on closing argument.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;ll be anonymous for this one)</p>
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		<title>By: wheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 21:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry to comment again, but i thought you might want to see the actual quotes. this is from mcnair v. state, 653 so.2d 320 (ala.crim.app. 1992):

“[MR. VALESKA:] And we want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth for you, McNair. For what? Here she is (indicating [towards victim&#039;s bloody clothes in chair at counsel table]). Here&#039;s Mrs. Riley.

“MR. DECKER [defense counsel]: Objection.

“MR. VALESKA: Go ahead and object. Object all you want. This is Mrs. Riley (indicating).

“MR. DECKER: We object, your Honor.

“THE COURT: Gentlemen, let&#039;s calm these arguments and the objections down. I think he can utilize the evidence in the case.

“MR. DECKER: Yes, your Honor. But to display them in such a fashion is to do nothing. And for the record, your Honor, he has got an empty chair and is placing clothing in the chair to indicate or form a semblance.

“THE COURT: Mr. Valeska, I would be careful in that part of your argument.

“MR. VALESKA: Judge, how can they sit here and argue about Christ and Jesus, and I can&#039;t show the jury a display and sit down the clothes and say, this is what&#039;s left of Mrs. Riley&#039;s body. That&#039;s not improper.

“THE COURT: I&#039;m just-

“MR. VALESKA: Yes, sir. I&#039;ll do it this way then. I&#039;m not going to argue with the judge.

“MR. DECKER: For the record, could we have a-

“THE COURT: Your objection is overruled.

“MR. DECKER: Thank you.

“MR. VALESKA: And I&#039;m not afraid to hold it. I&#039;m not afraid to touch it. This is Mrs. Riley (Indicating).

“MR. DECKER: We object, Your Honor, to the representation that that&#039;s Mrs. Riley. That is not Mrs. Riley. That is blood-stained clothing. Improper argument.

“THE COURT: Overruled.”

the court of criminal appeals said it was improper, but - yada yada yada - upheld the conviction.

btw, the da - mr. valeska - is still going strong. if you want a fun exercise, do a westlaw search in alabama for &quot;valeska&quot; and then some combination of &quot;misconduct&quot; &quot;batson&quot; &quot;improper argument&quot; or &quot;brady.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry to comment again, but i thought you might want to see the actual quotes. this is from mcnair v. state, 653 so.2d 320 (ala.crim.app. 1992):</p>
<p>“[MR. VALESKA:] And we want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth for you, McNair. For what? Here she is (indicating [towards victim's bloody clothes in chair at counsel table]). Here&#8217;s Mrs. Riley.</p>
<p>“MR. DECKER [defense counsel]: Objection.</p>
<p>“MR. VALESKA: Go ahead and object. Object all you want. This is Mrs. Riley (indicating).</p>
<p>“MR. DECKER: We object, your Honor.</p>
<p>“THE COURT: Gentlemen, let&#8217;s calm these arguments and the objections down. I think he can utilize the evidence in the case.</p>
<p>“MR. DECKER: Yes, your Honor. But to display them in such a fashion is to do nothing. And for the record, your Honor, he has got an empty chair and is placing clothing in the chair to indicate or form a semblance.</p>
<p>“THE COURT: Mr. Valeska, I would be careful in that part of your argument.</p>
<p>“MR. VALESKA: Judge, how can they sit here and argue about Christ and Jesus, and I can&#8217;t show the jury a display and sit down the clothes and say, this is what&#8217;s left of Mrs. Riley&#8217;s body. That&#8217;s not improper.</p>
<p>“THE COURT: I&#8217;m just-</p>
<p>“MR. VALESKA: Yes, sir. I&#8217;ll do it this way then. I&#8217;m not going to argue with the judge.</p>
<p>“MR. DECKER: For the record, could we have a-</p>
<p>“THE COURT: Your objection is overruled.</p>
<p>“MR. DECKER: Thank you.</p>
<p>“MR. VALESKA: And I&#8217;m not afraid to hold it. I&#8217;m not afraid to touch it. This is Mrs. Riley (Indicating).</p>
<p>“MR. DECKER: We object, Your Honor, to the representation that that&#8217;s Mrs. Riley. That is not Mrs. Riley. That is blood-stained clothing. Improper argument.</p>
<p>“THE COURT: Overruled.”</p>
<p>the court of criminal appeals said it was improper, but &#8211; yada yada yada &#8211; upheld the conviction.</p>
<p>btw, the da &#8211; mr. valeska &#8211; is still going strong. if you want a fun exercise, do a westlaw search in alabama for &#8220;valeska&#8221; and then some combination of &#8220;misconduct&#8221; &#8220;batson&#8221; &#8220;improper argument&#8221; or &#8220;brady.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wheeler</title>
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		<dc:creator>wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we&#039;re handling an appeal of a capital case from south alabama where the da put the victim&#039;s bloody clothes in a chair and conversed with them during close. good stuff.

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