Home | About | RSS Feed | Contact and Publicity Guidelines | Comment Policy the Law, the Universe, and Everything 

Search


Concurring Opinions is a
general-interest legal blog
operated by Concurring
Opinions LLC, a Pennsylvania
Limited Liability Corporation.

jr_114_9780195367195_bnr

jr_114_9780195383768_bnr

advertise-here4


Our Podcast

Subscribe to Law Talk

law-rev-contents2.jpg


  • Posts by Author

  • Categories

  • Archives


  • Recent Comments

    • Bruce Boyden on Privacy and Facebook: Give a Little Here, Take a Little There?

    • Danielle Citron on Privacy and Facebook: Give a Little Here, Take a Little There?

    • Logical Extremes on Privacy and Facebook: Give a Little Here, Take a Little There?

    • Logical Extremes on Privacy and Facebook: Give a Little Here, Take a Little There?

    • Danielle Citron on Privacy and Facebook: Give a Little Here, Take a Little There?

    • Bruce Boyden on Privacy and Facebook: Give a Little Here, Take a Little There?

    • Brett Bellmore on Interpretive Fictions in Constitutional Law

    • Iago on Can President Bush Be Impeached After He’s Gone?

    • Alan on Interpretive Fictions in Constitutional Law

    • A.J. Sutter on PhD/JDs: Fads or Future?

    • James A.W. Shaw on Interpretive Fictions in Constitutional Law

    • Anon on To JD/PhD or Not to JD/PhD, That Is the Question

    • Josh Blackman on Interpretive Fictions in Constitutional Law

    • Brian on Justice Sotomayor, Civil Procedure, and the “Tradition” of Unanimous Debut Opinions

    • ..anon on Interpretive Fictions in Constitutional Law

  •  

    Site Meter

NewsFlash: Westlaw is Fallible!

posted by Amanda Frost

Like many lawyers, I rely heavily on Westlaw and other electronic databases for research. So I was disturbed to discover that Westlaw had failed to note some pretty important developments in a case I had been litigating — omissions that may have affected the way other courts view the issue.

The case is Peoples v. CCA, which I have discussed in a previous post. My petition for rehearing en banc was granted on December 22, 2005, but Westlaw failed to note that information in either a yellow flag or in the history link. I called Westlaw to report that problem as soon as I noticed it in late January, and Westlaw fixed it quickly by attaching a yellow flag to the case and noting that en banc review had been granted. In the meantime, however, the Fourth Circuit had already cited to the panel opinion as supporting its view of the issue, apparently unaware that the Tenth Circuit had agreed to rehear the case en banc. (Though in fairness I do not believe that information would have changed the Fourth Circuit’s mind).

Then the en banc court issued a per curiam opinion in which it affirmed the district court by an evenly divided vote, which vacated the panel opinion. Westlaw has failed to note this change in the panel opinion’s status, despite the two telephone calls I have already made reporting this problem. And courts continue to cite the panel opinion as if it is good law.

No system of recording cases and their histories is failsafe, and I think that Westlaw and Lexis both do a pretty good job most of the time. I certainly don’t have a better system to propose. But this citation error makes me realize how heavily we all rely on electronic databases for our information about case law, and how one mistaken citation can affect a rapidly developing area of the law.


 August 16, 2006 at 9:34 am   Posted in: Law Practice   Print This Post Print This Post

Responses (6)

  1. Michael Risch - August 16, 2006 at 10:33 am

    While Lexis and Westlaw were trying to sell us when I was in charge of this in practice, the Lexis Shepard’s database was their big selling point, and the salesman kept pushing the fact that KeyCite was often wrong.

    I would be interested to hear whether Lexis had the right data in this case.

  2. Thaddeus Pope - August 16, 2006 at 12:26 pm

    I recall several large multistate research projects that I conducted at Arnold & Porter, where we noticed that Westlaw was often missing information on stages in appellate proceedings that did not result in written opinions (e.g. petitions for rehearing). We ended up pulling the PACER reports for all the federal cases to “double-check” Weestlaw. Perhaps this is better now that they import dockets.

  3. Scott Moss - August 16, 2006 at 5:03 pm

    I once asked Westlaw to correct a flagging, and they responded quickly in that situation too. Westlaw inaccurately posted a yellow flag on a case that was one I “won” (on a motion, not a whole case). I was offended at the mistreatment of my baby, so I called them; they looked into it quickly and agreed (it was clear that “my” case had not in fact been criticized/questioned/etc. by the case under the “yellow flag” header), and they fixed it promptly.

    Ultimately, no system like this is perfect, so I walked away impressed that they respond so quickly to reports of errors. The evil mad scientist in me wants to make a false “report” of an “error” (e.g., falsely disputing a yellow flag on a case that really does deserve it), just to see if they promptly give in all the time — but I guess I’m either insufficiently evil or insufficiently intellectually curious.

  4. Amanda Frost - August 16, 2006 at 6:23 pm

    Michael,

    Lexis got it right (or close enough, anyway). So perhaps Lexis is better at this than Westlaw.

    Amanda

  5. Michael Risch - August 16, 2006 at 11:34 pm

    No surprise there – that’s the core of the Shepard’s business.

  6. Randall Carreira - January 21, 2007 at 1:18 pm

    My issues with Westlaw are not so “ivory tower”.

    They sent be a $34,000.00+ bill claiming I utilized search engines all over the country.

    My paralegal claims differently and everyone I talked to at Westlaw sympathizes but does not have any authority to deal with it. I indicated to them all the printouts were within my service plan, etc. and that my paralegal claims to have never seen any warning charge screens that would indicate an out of service data base was triggered. Westlaw takes the position that since they program the screens, they must be there, they do not care if I did not use the data bases, their information is correct and guess what, they will put me in collections if I do not pay $24,000.00 immediately.(They were “gracious” enough to give me a $10,000.00 credit). I may just pay “under protest” and take action later.

    Does anyone else have these problems?

Leave a Reply

*
To prove you're a person (not a spam script), type the security word shown in the picture. Click on the picture to hear an audio file of the word.
Click to hear an audio file of the anti-spam word


  • « Previous post
  • Next post »

Authors

Daniel J. Solove

Website
Understanding Privacy

Kaimipono Wenger

Website
SSRN Page

Dave Hoffman

Website
SSRN Page

Nate Oman

Website
SSRN Page

Frank Pasquale

Website
SSRN Page

Deven Desai

Website
SSRN Page

Danielle Citron

Website
SSRN Page

Lawrence Cunningham

Website
SSRN Page

Sarah Waldeck

Website
SSRN Page

Jaya Ramji-Nogales

Website
SSRN Page

Solangel Maldonado

Website
SSRN Page

Gerard Magliocca

Website
SSRN Page


Guests

Mark Edwards
Rachel Godsil
Alex Kreit
Anita Krishnakumar
Matthew Sag
Michael Zimmer






Previous Guests

Michael Abramowicz
Michelle Adams
Robert Ahdieh
Michelle Anderson
Laura Appleman
Ann Bartow
Francesca Bignami
Jeremy Blumenthal
Kathleen Boozang
Bruce Boyden
Donald Braman
Al Brophy
Neil H. Buchanan
Bill Burke-White
Scott Burris
Paul Butler
Naomi Cahn
Anupam Chander
Miriam Cherry
Jack Chin
Jennifer Collins
Allison Danner
Brannon Denning
Deven Desai
Mike Dimino
Mark Edwards
David Fagundes
Christine Haight Farley
Kim Ferzan
Dan Filler
Michael Froomkin
Amanda Frost
Timothy Glynn
Rachel Godsil
Eric Goldman
David Gray
Craig Green
Tristin Green
Jeffrey Harrison
Erica Hashimoto
Carissa Hessick
Laura Heymann
Robert Hillman
Christine Hurt
Darian Ibrahim
John Ip
Kevin Johnson
Dan Kahan
Brian Kalt
Sam Kamin
Michael Kang
Chimène Keitner
Orin Kerr
Nancy Kim
Heidi Kitrosser
Adam Kolber
Russell Korobkin
Anita S. Krishnakumar
Susan Kuo
Greg Lastowka
Sarah Lawsky
Erik Lillquist
Jeff Lipshaw
Jonathan Lipson
Jacqueline Lipton
Joseph Liu
Michael Madison
Solangel Maldonado
Jason Mazzone
Linda McClain
William McGeveran
Salil Mehra
Carrie Menkel-Meadow
Max Minzner
Scott Moss
Eric Muller
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Helen Norton
Elizabeth Nowicki
Paul Ohm
Michael O'Shea
David Opderback
Kristen Osenga
Rafael Pardo
Marcy Peek
Eduardo Peñalver
Robert Percival
David Post
Shruti Rana
Geoffrey Rapp
Neil Richards
Lori Ringhand
Alice Ristroph
Susan Scafidi
Paul Secunda
Jonathan Siegel
Jessica Silbey
Peter Smith
Charles Sullivan
Rick Swedloff
Steph Tai
Andrew Taslitz
Robert Tsai
Jenia Turner
Steve Vladeck
Sarah Waldeck
Melissa Waters
Alfred Yen
David Zaring
Timothy Zick
Spencer Weber Waller
Howard Wasserman
Frank Wu
Corey Yung
Jonathan Zittrain

Blogroll

Above the Law
ACS Blog
Althouse
Balkinization
Becker-Posner Blog
BlackProf
BoingBoing
Chicago Law Faculty Blog
Conglomerate
CrimLaw
Crime & Federalism
CrimProf Blog
Crooked Timber
Discourse.net
Dorf on Law
Election Law
Emergent Chaos
The Faculty Lounge
Feminist Law Profs
43(B)log
Freakonomics Blog
Freedom to Tinker
Google Blogoscoped
How Appealing
Ideoblog
Info/Law
Instapundit.com
Juris Novus
Jurisdynamics
Law and Humanities Blog
Law and Letters
Law Librarian Blog
Legal Profession Blog
Legal Theory Blog
Legal Times Blog
Leiter Reports
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
Lessig Blog
Madisonian Theory
Media Law Blog
Mirror of Justice
The Moderate Voice
National Security Advisors
Opinio Juris
Point of Law
PrawfsBlawg
ProfessorBainbridge.com
Property Prof Blog
Red Tape Chronicles
The Right Coast
Schneier on Security
SCOTUSBlog
Security Dilemmas
Sentencing Law and Policy
Simple Justice
Sivacracy.net
The Situationist
Susan Crawford
TalkLeft
Talking Points Memo
TaxProf Blog
Tech & Marketing Law
Truth on the Market
Volokh Conspiracy
WorkPlace Prof Blog
WSJ Law Blog
Wonkette
The Yin Blog


© Concurring Opinions

Powered by WordPress