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	<title>Comments on: Specter Looking to Sue President Bush Over Signing Statements</title>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/07/specter_looking.html/comment-page-1#comment-57666</link>
		<dc:creator>L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This point probably isn&#039;t worth further elaboration, but I just have to ask: MC, in what way did Justice Stevens &quot;botch&quot; judicial review of legislative intent? I&#039;m sure you can&#039;t possibly mean that simply because a decision turned out differently than you would have hoped, that this constitutes judicial error. Surely.

(Also, for what it&#039;s worth, I read the last recommendation a bit differently than you did: Rather than urging a requirement for judicial review of &lt;i&gt;legislative&lt;/i&gt; intent, I think the ABA was encouraging review of &lt;i&gt;executive&lt;/i&gt; intent. (&quot;The [ABA] urges Congress to enact legislation . . . to seek judicial review . . . in any instance in which the President claims the authority, or states the intention, to disregard or decline to enforce all or part of a law he has signed . . .&quot; See also p. 26 of the recommendations report.))

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This point probably isn&#8217;t worth further elaboration, but I just have to ask: MC, in what way did Justice Stevens &#8220;botch&#8221; judicial review of legislative intent? I&#8217;m sure you can&#8217;t possibly mean that simply because a decision turned out differently than you would have hoped, that this constitutes judicial error. Surely.</p>
<p>(Also, for what it&#8217;s worth, I read the last recommendation a bit differently than you did: Rather than urging a requirement for judicial review of <i>legislative</i> intent, I think the ABA was encouraging review of <i>executive</i> intent. (&#8220;The [ABA] urges Congress to enact legislation . . . to seek judicial review . . . in any instance in which the President claims the authority, or states the intention, to disregard or decline to enforce all or part of a law he has signed . . .&#8221; See also p. 26 of the recommendations report.))</p>
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		<title>By: Maryland Conservatarian</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/07/specter_looking.html/comment-page-1#comment-57665</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryland Conservatarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think signing statements are a natural counterpoint to the use of legislative history and accordingly have no philosophical problem with their use. The president is an important part of the bill-enacting process and his/her views on what&#039;s being signed are relevant.

As to the findings, I agree that the President should veto bills he considers unconstitutional - President Bush&#039;s signing of McCain-Feingold was simply wrong given his correct mis-givings about the bill. But much of the rest of the recommendations are just silly - the President should not have to present &quot;official&quot; signing statements to the Congress. And despite the legion of &quot;living constitutionalists&quot; who embrace Judicial review for just about everything, such judicial review should not be encouraged as the last word on legislative intent (which is how I read the last recommendation) - Justice Stevens spectacular botching of that in Hamdan should have us all suspicious of the Court&#039;s ability to do this correctly.

Finally, this line from the report surely qualifies as a howler:

&quot;Our recommendations are not intended to be, and should not be viewed as, an attack on

the current President.&quot;

(I mean why else would the ABA House of Delegates vote for the resolution if it wasn&#039;t an attack on this President)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think signing statements are a natural counterpoint to the use of legislative history and accordingly have no philosophical problem with their use. The president is an important part of the bill-enacting process and his/her views on what&#8217;s being signed are relevant.</p>
<p>As to the findings, I agree that the President should veto bills he considers unconstitutional &#8211; President Bush&#8217;s signing of McCain-Feingold was simply wrong given his correct mis-givings about the bill. But much of the rest of the recommendations are just silly &#8211; the President should not have to present &#8220;official&#8221; signing statements to the Congress. And despite the legion of &#8220;living constitutionalists&#8221; who embrace Judicial review for just about everything, such judicial review should not be encouraged as the last word on legislative intent (which is how I read the last recommendation) &#8211; Justice Stevens spectacular botching of that in Hamdan should have us all suspicious of the Court&#8217;s ability to do this correctly.</p>
<p>Finally, this line from the report surely qualifies as a howler:</p>
<p>&#8220;Our recommendations are not intended to be, and should not be viewed as, an attack on</p>
<p>the current President.&#8221;</p>
<p>(I mean why else would the ABA House of Delegates vote for the resolution if it wasn&#8217;t an attack on this President)</p>
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		<title>By: Deven Desai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deven Desai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for the bipartisan nod, fair enough I was quoting and you may have real reasons to doubt the panel (though some seem to have Republican credentials).

How about addressing the findings nonetheless?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for the bipartisan nod, fair enough I was quoting and you may have real reasons to doubt the panel (though some seem to have Republican credentials).</p>
<p>How about addressing the findings nonetheless?</p>
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		<title>By: Maryland Conservatarian</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/07/specter_looking.html/comment-page-1#comment-57663</link>
		<dc:creator>Maryland Conservatarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Friday alludes to an important point - the (blue ribbon??)Task Force&#039;s findings &amp; recommendations were pre-determined in the member selection process.

The ABA continues to make the case for its own irrelevancy

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Friday alludes to an important point &#8211; the (blue ribbon??)Task Force&#8217;s findings &#038; recommendations were pre-determined in the member selection process.</p>
<p>The ABA continues to make the case for its own irrelevancy</p>
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		<title>By: Laz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s assume a bill like this passes over Bush&#039;s veto and creates statutory standing.  Isn&#039;t there still a problem with Article III standing under &lt;i&gt;Lujan&lt;/i&gt;?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s assume a bill like this passes over Bush&#8217;s veto and creates statutory standing.  Isn&#8217;t there still a problem with Article III standing under <i>Lujan</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: Haninah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haninah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that&#039;s Harold *Koh*, if it&#039;s the fellow from Yale.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that&#8217;s Harold *Koh*, if it&#8217;s the fellow from Yale.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/07/specter_looking.html/comment-page-1#comment-57660</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s very elegant.  Rather than suing right off, create the cause of action first.  Looks like Bush might get to use his veto a second time...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s very elegant.  Rather than suing right off, create the cause of action first.  Looks like Bush might get to use his veto a second time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Friday</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/07/specter_looking.html/comment-page-1#comment-57659</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Friday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The group is bipartisan, although I believe the Republicans in the group had already condemned the practice before being invited to be on the ABA panel.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The group is bipartisan, although I believe the Republicans in the group had already condemned the practice before being invited to be on the ABA panel.</p>
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