Home | About | RSS Feed | Contact and Publicity Guidelines | Comment Policy the Law, the Universe, and Everything 


advertise-here4


Slip Opinions


Most under-appreciated thing about Warren Buffett: he built Berkshire to last well beyond him.  (LAC, at BRK annual meeting via Motley Fool, here.)

Cardozo Law School's Susan Crawford battles telecom giants, per NYT here.  (LAC)

University governance as a new topic of public discussion.

An unusual profile of Mary Anne Franks (kw)

Aggressive copyright litigation run amok. (fp)

USA Today's Matt Krantz quoting me on Warren Buffett joining Twitter.  (LAC)

Private prisons? Why, sure! What could possibly go wrong? (kw)

TNR profiles Susan Crawford (kw)

Berkshire Hathaway is bigger than Warren Buffett.  Manual of Ideas (LAC).

Guns don't shoot people, kitchen appliances shoot people (kw)


Our Podcast

Subscribe to Law Talk


  • Posts by Author

  • Categories

  • Archives


  • Recent Comments


    • David Schwartz on The Varying Use of Legal Scholarship by the U.S. Supreme Court across Issues

    • Matt on Is Berkshire Hathaway Really a Psychology Experiment?

    • Orin Kerr on The Varying Use of Legal Scholarship by the U.S. Supreme Court across Issues

    • Guy Spier on Is Berkshire Hathaway Really a Psychology Experiment?

    • Griff on The Varying Use of Legal Scholarship by the U.S. Supreme Court across Issues

    • John Mihaljevic on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Patrick S. O'Donnell on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Arthur Clarke on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board

    • Patrick S. O'Donnell on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Matt on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Larry Sheldon on Warren Buffett: Practical Philosopher of Capitalism

    • Personal Injury Lawyer on Privacy Self-Management and the Consent Dilemma

    • Lawrence Cunningham on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board

    • Guy Spier on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board

    • John Mihaljevic on Mr. Buffett Joins a Board
  •  

    Site Meter

    About the Blog

    Concurring Opinions is a multiple authored, general interest legal blog.

    (Image: Wikicommons)

Has Scalia Gone Off The Rails?

posted by Dan Filler

scaliashot.jpgThe Boston Herald published a photo of Justice Scalia today documenting him flipping off a Herald reporter. (I’ve attached a different photo here. Call it USNewsophobia. The real image, with accompanying story, is only a click away.) This news story broke a couple of days back, and Scalia apparently argued that his gesture – flipping his fingers off his chin – had been misunderstood. The photographer released the photo to show that reporters had gotten the story right the first time.

Am I unusual in thinking that the Justice’s conduct is not only inappropriate but downright weird? I mean, this guy is on the SUPREME COURT. If I can learn to censor myself as part of my southern law prof persona, I have to think that the admittedly volatile Justice Scalia can do likewise. How hard can it be to avoid responding “fuck you” to a reporter? (And would the Senate confirm a similarly qualified candidate who had exhibited this sort of conduct prior to his or her confirmation hearings?)

Perhaps he’s hoping to run for vice-president.

Update. Let me first admit that I had not been following the story – particularly the Justice’s letter to the editor - as closely as I ought to have. I enjoyed the Justice’s originalist explanation a great deal. Do I think he was unaware of the more commonly understood (modern) meaning of the gesture? I’ll reserve judgment. That said, even if he was engaging in a bit of cultural arbitrage – no, particularly if he was – I have to give it up to the Justice.


 March 31, 2006 at 1:47 am   Posted in: Supreme Court   Print This Post Print This Post

Responses (17)

  1. Daniel J. Solove - March 31, 2006 at 2:18 am

    The gesture strikes me as the least problematic thing Justice Scalia has done of late. It seems as though he can’t stop from stating his already prejudged positions about cases and issues currently before the Supreme Court. And nearly every year brings new Justice Scalia controversies.

    My colleague Jonathan Turley has this essay on Scalia’s recent and past antics. Jonathan writes:

    In 1996, he denounced theories of a constitutional right to die when there were two cases on that very question pending before the court. In 2003, he appeared at a “religious freedom rally” sponsored by the Knights of Columbus in Virginia to denounce attacks on the Pledge of Allegiance when a challenge to the pledge was pending before the court. Rather than wait for the oral arguments, Scalia pumped up the audience by declaring that the effort to remove God from the Pledge of Allegiance was “contrary to our whole tradition.” On that occasion, Scalia had to recuse himself.

    The latest public proclamation from Scalia is even worse. In Switzerland, Scalia responded to a question about the claims of detainees like Salim Ahmed Hamdan by saying “give me a break.” Hamdan — Osama bin Laden’s former driver — is arguing that the federal courts should have jurisdiction over his case, but Scalia dismissed the premise of his claims and emphasized that “if he was captured by my army on a battlefield, that is where he belongs. I had a son on that battlefield, and they were shooting at my son, and I’m not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean, it’s crazy.”

    Each of these incidents brings new debates. Was the gesture obscene? Did Scalia prejudge the cases? Should he recuse himself? Everybody can make a foolish mistake at one point or another — say the wrong thing, make the wrong gesture. Typically, an apology should follow. But at some point, the totality of Justice Scalia’s behavior ought to be carefully examined. Is this kind of repeated controversial behavior appropriate for a Supreme Court Justice?

  2. Will Baude - March 31, 2006 at 2:19 am

    Scalia claims in a letter (and the picture seems to corroborate this, and there’s no particular reason to disagree) to have been making a different gesture, not obscene.

    http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=132653

  3. Daniel J. Solove - March 31, 2006 at 3:02 am

    I think that Scalia’s comments on cases should be getting more attention than his gesture.

    Wonkette has this useful post describing the nature of the gesture.

  4. Rick Garnett - March 31, 2006 at 7:58 am

    Certainly, if Justice Scalia *really* did make the f*** off gesture, then he did something inappropriate. That said, the question to which he was responding — basically, “as a Justice, shouldn’t you not be seen going to Mass” — was strikingly offensive. Not a justification, perhaps, but certainly an excuse.

  5. joe patent - March 31, 2006 at 8:29 am

    this is all much ado about nothing. You liberal law school professors have nothing better to do than criticize a man for being perturbed when a reporter questions the choice of being seen going to mass?

  6. none@ - March 31, 2006 at 8:38 am

    you dont have life tenure. why should he bother?

  7. Paul Gowder - March 31, 2006 at 9:41 am

    Who cares about the gesture, as Dan said, the man has been freely admitting that he’s pre-judged cases coming up before the court.

    (And why on earth did the photographer get fired?? Good to know the Catholic Church is still into censorship.)

  8. Lex Aquila - March 31, 2006 at 12:26 pm

    A note on this blog’s style: I’m not sure it’s a spoken policy, but the posting of an image, picture, etc., with blog entries is well-taken. Looking over the blog, it adds something to each story aesthetically, if nothing else, for their to be some sort of image. Good job.

  9. David S. Cohen - March 31, 2006 at 4:54 pm

    I had the same reaction as you, Dan. Coupled with the incidents Daniel notes in his comments, Scalia is really taking liberties with his public persona these days.

    As for his rebuttal, how long do you think he had his law clerk work on that? Interesting assignment….

    The Philly Inquirer had its own take on this issue this morning, linked here. Several South Philly Italian-Americans weighed in, many saying Scalia went beyond appropriate public behavior with the gesture.

  10. Bruce - March 31, 2006 at 5:09 pm

    I’m a liberal law professor, but I agree with Joe Patent that there’s not much here here. For one thing, I sympathize with public figures who are hounded by the press. Maybe (just maybe!) Sean Penn shouldn’t beat them up, but an obscene gesture now and then seems reasonable. Dan Solove, you’re a privacy guy — don’t you agree?

  11. Daniel J. Solove - March 31, 2006 at 5:36 pm

    Bruce, I shouldn’t take the bait you offer, but we expect different standards of behavior from celebrities and Supreme Court justices. What is reasonable for Courtney Love to do is different from what’s reasonable for Justice Scalia. So perhaps you’re applying the “reasonable celebrity” standard instead of the “reasonable Supreme Court Justice standard.” Of course, one could surely quip that there is no such thing as the “reasonable Supreme Court Justice,” but we all know that these standards are ideals. . . .

    But I wish that all the attention weren’t on the gesturing — in the end, it’s not a big deal. The really outrageous matter is Scalia’s speaking out about cases he’s currently supposed to be deciding.

  12. Hirbod Rashidi - March 31, 2006 at 5:57 pm

    In the movie Donnie Brasco, Johnny Depp playing undercover agent Joe Pistone is asked, “what does ‘forget about it” mean?” Donnie Brasco anwers

  13. Hirbod Rashidi - March 31, 2006 at 6:12 pm

    In the movie Donnie Brasco, Johnny Depp playing undercover agent Joe Pistone is asked, “what does ‘forget about it’ mean?” Donnie Brasco answers:

    “‘Forget about it’ is like if you agree with someone, you know, like ‘Raquel Welsh is one great piece of ass… forget about it.’ But then, if you disagree, like ‘A Lincoln is better than a Cadillac? Forget about it!’ you know? But then, it’s also like if something’s the greatest thing in the world, like Mingrio’s Peppers, ‘forget about it.’ But it’s also like saying ‘Go to hell!’ too. Like, you know, like ‘Hey Paulie, you got a one inch pecker?’ and Paulie says ‘Forget about it!’ Sometimes it just means forget about it.”

    As someone who has lived in Southern Italy, I can vouch for Scalia that like “forget about it,” the gesture in question can have many meanings (some obscene, some benign). In the context of the Boston Herald story was Scalia being obscene? Forget about it! Was he simply telling the reporter that he does not care what she thinks? Forget about it! Is this much ado about nothing? Forget about it!

    (The source of the quote from Donnie Brasco: http://www.whysanity.net/monos/donnie.html)

  14. Big Hands - March 31, 2006 at 9:31 pm

    What up with all the evil people in the world and their common trait: small hands. Scalia has small hands. So does that guy on the McLaughlin group–Tony what’s his name.

  15. ce.Anonymous - March 31, 2006 at 9:55 pm

    This is much ado about nothing. The story (as a “news” story) is absurd on its face–a completely contrived mountain out of a molehill.

  16. SCOTUSblog - April 3, 2006 at 1:14 pm

    Blog Round-Up – Monday, April 3rd

    Here is Concurring Opinions with a post titled, “Has Scalia Gone Off the Rails?” The WSJ Law Blog has this post titled, “Justice Scalia’s Gesture: Obscene or Not?” The Volokh Conspiracy has this post reporting that the Raich oral argument…

  17. cynic - April 3, 2006 at 7:32 pm

    Get a life.

Leave a Reply

Spam protection by WP Captcha-Free


  • « Previous post
  • Next post »

Authors

Daniel J. Solove
Kaimipono Wenger
Dave Hoffman
Frank Pasquale
Deven Desai
Danielle Citron
Lawrence Cunningham
Sarah Waldeck
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Solangel Maldonado
Gerard Magliocca

Guests

Kelli A. Alces
Taunya Lovell Banks
Ryan Calo
Claire Hill
Jay Kesten
William McGeveran
Meredith Render
Aaron Saiger
David L. Schwartz
Olivier Sylvain
Charles K. Whitehead
Aaron Zelinsky


















Previous Guests

Michael Abramowicz
Michelle Adams
Robert Ahdieh
Marvin Ammori
Michelle Anderson
Laura Appleman
Derek Bambauer
Taunya Lovell Banks
Ann Bartow
Steven Bellovin
Adam Benforado
Gaia Bernstein
Francesca Bignami
Josh Blackman
Joseph Blocher
Jeremy Blumenthal
Kathleen Boozang
Bruce Boyden
Donald Braman
Khiara Bridges
Al Brophy
Neil H. Buchanan
Bill Burke-White
Scott Burris
Paul Butler
Ryan Calo
Naomi Cahn
Anupam Chander
Miriam Cherry
Jack Chin
Glenn Cohen
Gabriella Coleman
Jennifer Collins
Caroline Mala Corbin
Thomas Crocker
andré douglas pond cummings
Allison Danner
Laura DeNardis
Brannon Denning
Deven Desai
Mike Dimino
Mark Edwards
Maxine Eichner
Jessica Erickson
David Fagundes
Lisa Fairfax
Joshua Fairfield
Christine Haight Farley
Kim Ferzan
Dan Filler
Mary Anne Franks
Susan Freiwald
Michael Froomkin
Amanda Frost
Brian Frye
Timothy Glynn
Rachel Godsil
Eric Goldman
Kyle Graham
David Gray
Craig Green
Tristin Green
Jonathan Hafetz
Vivian E. Hamilton
Meredith Harbach
Michelle Harner
Angela Harris
Jeffrey Harrison
Hosea Harvey
Erica Hashimoto
Jennifer Hendricks
Carissa Hessick
Laura Heymann
Robert Hillman
Gilbert A. Holmes
Nicole Huberfeld
Christine Hurt
Darian Ibrahim
Sherrilyn Ifill
John Ip
Shavar Jeffries
Kevin Johnson
Kristin Johnson
Jeff Jonas
Courtney Joslin
Dan Kahan
Jeffrey Kahn
Brian Kalt
Sam Kamin
Michael Kang
Chimène Keitner
Alicia Kelly
Orin Kerr
Nancy Kim
Heidi Kitrosser
Adam Kolber
Russell Korobkin
Alex Kreit
Anita S. Krishnakumar
Susan Kuo
Greg Lastowka
Sarah Lawsky
Youngjae Lee
Margaret Lewis
Erik Lillquist
Jeff Lipshaw
Jonathan Lipson
Jacqueline Lipton
Matthew Lister
Joseph Liu
Michael Madison
Tayyab Mahmud
Kevin Noble Maillard
Solangel Maldonado
Jason Mazzone
Linda McClain
William McGeveran
Salil Mehra
Carrie Menkel-Meadow
Max Minzner
Viva Moffat
Scott Moss
Eric Muller
Janai Nelson
Jaya Ramji-Nogales
Helen Norton
Elizabeth Nowicki
Paul Ohm
Angela Onwuachi-Willing
David Opderback
David Orentlicher
Michael O'Shea
Kristen Osenga
Mary-Rose Papandrea
Rafael Pardo
Marcy Peek
Eduardo Peñalver
Robert Percival
Michael J. Pitts
Marc Poirier
David Post
Amanda Pustilnik
Shruti Rana
Geoffrey Rapp
William Reynolds
Neil Richards
Lori Ringhand
Alice Ristroph
Marc Roark
Brishen Rogers
Sasha Romanosky
Tuan Samahon
Susan Scafidi
David Schleicher
David Schraub
Paul Secunda
Lea Shaver
Jonathan Siegel
Jessica Silbey
Peter Smith
Judd Sneirson
Adam Steinman
Charles Sullivan
Rick Swedloff
Peter Swire
Olivier Sylvain
Steph Tai
Andrew Taslitz
Robert Tsai
Jenia Turner
Joseph Turow
Steve Vladeck
Ari Waldman
Spencer Weber Waller
Howard Wasserman
Melissa Waters
Elizabeth A. Wilson
Frank Wu
Alfred Yen
Corey Yung
David Zaring
Timothy Zick
Michael Zimmer
Jonathan Zittrain

Ownership

Concurring Opinions is a
general-interest legal blog
operated by Concurring
Opinions LLC, a Pennsylvania
Limited Liability Corporation.

Blogroll

Above the Law
Access to Justice
ACS Blog
Althouse
Balkinization
Becker-Posner Blog
BlackProf
BoingBoing
Chicago Law Faculty Blog
Conglomerate
CrimLaw
Crime & Federalism
CrimProf Blog
Crooked Timber
Derechoalderecho
Discourse.net
Dorf on Law
Election Law
Emergent Chaos
The Faculty Lounge
Feminist Law Profs
43(B)log
Freakonomics Blog
Freedom to Tinker
Google Blogoscoped
How Appealing
Ideoblog
Info/Law
Instapundit.com
Juris Novus
Jurisdynamics
Just Books
Law and Humanities Blog
Law and Letters
Law Librarian Blog
Legal Profession Blog
Legal Theory Blog
Legal Times Blog
Leiter Reports
Brian Leiter's Law School Reports
Lessig Blog
Madisonian Theory
Media Law Blog
Mirror of Justice
The Moderate Voice
National Security Advisors
Opinio Juris
Point of Law
PrawfsBlawg
Privacy and Security Training
ProfessorBainbridge.com
Property Prof Blog
Red Tape Chronicles
The Right Coast
Schneier on Security
SCOTUSBlog
Security Dilemmas
Sentencing Law and Policy
Simple Justice
Sivacracy.net
The Situationist
Susan Crawford
TalkLeft
Talking Points Memo
TaxProf Blog
TeachPrivacy Blog
Tech & Marketing Law
Truth on the Market
Volokh Conspiracy
WorkPlace Prof Blog
WSJ Law Blog
Wonkette
The Yin Blog


© Concurring Opinions

Powered by WordPress