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		<title>By: Plainsman</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2006/02/justice_for_jon.html/comment-page-1#comment-60540</link>
		<dc:creator>Plainsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response, Prof. Filler.  I regret the somewhat harsh tone of my comment, but that is a serious accusation.

I am not yet sure what I think of the legal merits of Kozinski&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Goldyn&lt;/i&gt; opinion.  I confess to being sympathetic to the opinion, and this is why:  Even if it strains a relevant rule of law (deference to state courts&#039; interpretation of state statutes), it does so in order to uphold another rule-of-law principle: attending to the plain meaning of statutory text, especially in something as important as a criminal prosecution.

The opinion belongs in the &quot;&lt;i&gt;federal courts telling state courts their interpretations of state law are on crack&lt;/i&gt;&quot; folder.  Note that this folder also contains the Rehnquist concurrence in &lt;i&gt;Bush v. Gore&lt;/i&gt;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response, Prof. Filler.  I regret the somewhat harsh tone of my comment, but that is a serious accusation.</p>
<p>I am not yet sure what I think of the legal merits of Kozinski&#8217;s <i>Goldyn</i> opinion.  I confess to being sympathetic to the opinion, and this is why:  Even if it strains a relevant rule of law (deference to state courts&#8217; interpretation of state statutes), it does so in order to uphold another rule-of-law principle: attending to the plain meaning of statutory text, especially in something as important as a criminal prosecution.</p>
<p>The opinion belongs in the &#8220;<i>federal courts telling state courts their interpretations of state law are on crack</i>&#8221; folder.  Note that this folder also contains the Rehnquist concurrence in <i>Bush v. Gore</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Filler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Filler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 08:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plainsman, your comments are fair.  Insofar as my claim was based on the assumption that these judges were behaving unusually, my (quick) review of Kozinski&#039;s and Beezer&#039;s records on habeas cases suggests that these judges are quite liberal in granting the writ.  Granting habeas in this case involved ignoring a body of Nevada state jurisprudence, and I mistakenly assumed that it would be a big deal for a federal court to insert its view of Nevada law in place of the state&#039;s own interpretation.  In my part of the country, most judges - liberal or conservative - would consider that a signficant usurpation of state power.    As for the broader question of whether race, sex, and class play a part in the handling of criminal cases, I don&#039;t back off at all.  This is true from judges to DA&#039;s to defense attorneys; it is systemic.  And no, Maryland, I don&#039;t exempt Judge Reinhardt or myself (when I handled these cases) from this claim.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plainsman, your comments are fair.  Insofar as my claim was based on the assumption that these judges were behaving unusually, my (quick) review of Kozinski&#8217;s and Beezer&#8217;s records on habeas cases suggests that these judges are quite liberal in granting the writ.  Granting habeas in this case involved ignoring a body of Nevada state jurisprudence, and I mistakenly assumed that it would be a big deal for a federal court to insert its view of Nevada law in place of the state&#8217;s own interpretation.  In my part of the country, most judges &#8211; liberal or conservative &#8211; would consider that a signficant usurpation of state power.    As for the broader question of whether race, sex, and class play a part in the handling of criminal cases, I don&#8217;t back off at all.  This is true from judges to DA&#8217;s to defense attorneys; it is systemic.  And no, Maryland, I don&#8217;t exempt Judge Reinhardt or myself (when I handled these cases) from this claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Plainsman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plainsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2006 01:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The stuff in the post about how &lt;i&gt;even&lt;/i&gt; Judge Kozinski (note correct spelling) granted this petitioner relief is discordant.  To the contrary, Judge Kozinski has a long-standing reputation for being more libertarian and more pro-criminal-defendant than the average Reagan appointee.  Kozinski often gets steamed at what he perceives as injustices committed by the government in criminal cases.

A memorable recent example is his dissent in &lt;i&gt;U.S. v. Ramirez-Lopez&lt;/i&gt; (9th Cir. 2003), which was so cutting the government decided to drop the prosecution, despite having prevailed in the Ninth Circuit, and the panel majority withdrew their opinion!

In light of what the prior comment accurately terms the &quot;baseless innuendoes&quot; thrown around in the post, let me note that Ramirez-Lopez, the defendant whose railroading at trial summoned forth Judge Kozinski&#039;s &lt;i&gt;tour de force&lt;/i&gt; dissent, was a Mexican national convicted for smuggling illegal immigrants across the U.S. border.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stuff in the post about how <i>even</i> Judge Kozinski (note correct spelling) granted this petitioner relief is discordant.  To the contrary, Judge Kozinski has a long-standing reputation for being more libertarian and more pro-criminal-defendant than the average Reagan appointee.  Kozinski often gets steamed at what he perceives as injustices committed by the government in criminal cases.</p>
<p>A memorable recent example is his dissent in <i>U.S. v. Ramirez-Lopez</i> (9th Cir. 2003), which was so cutting the government decided to drop the prosecution, despite having prevailed in the Ninth Circuit, and the panel majority withdrew their opinion!</p>
<p>In light of what the prior comment accurately terms the &#8220;baseless innuendoes&#8221; thrown around in the post, let me note that Ramirez-Lopez, the defendant whose railroading at trial summoned forth Judge Kozinski&#8217;s <i>tour de force</i> dissent, was a Mexican national convicted for smuggling illegal immigrants across the U.S. border.</p>
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		<title>By: Maryland Conservatarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maryland Conservatarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And that leaves me a bit suspicious here.&quot;

What a coincidence - after reading Professor Filler&#039;s posting, I, too, was suspicious: would  Professor Filler have laid out a similar posting of baseless innuendoes if the judge&#039;s name instead had been, say, Judge Stephen Reinhardt...or if the plaintiff had in fact been a crack addict named Osama bin Hamdan.

Professor Filler seemingly inoculates himself with a meaningless declaration of &quot;I&#039;m not accusing Kosinski or his mates of being explicitly racist or sexist&quot;. Thanks for clearing that one up! I mean, after reading about a WOMAN of unknown ethnicity or race winning in federal circuit court after spending twelve years in jail - well, who wouldn&#039;t initiallty think that such a ruling could only come from some rascist, sexist neanderthal.

Perhaps if Judge Kosinski had merely wrapped his opinion around some kind of social policy-making (i.e. tied her conviction to a gambling addiction) - maybe then Professor Filler would have been a bit more understanding, if not downright effusove with praise...but, no,  instead Judge Kosinski made a &quot;&quot;most controversial move&quot;; he decided &quot;to interpret a statute according to its plain text&quot;.

Now, I&#039;m not accusing Professor Filler of being explicitly a liberal law professor out to impugn a judge he doesn&#039;t agree with. It&#039;s just that I&#039;ve spent enough time around liberals to know that, when it comes to judges considered not to be connected to their inner William Kunstlers, well, anything goes. And that leaves me a bit suspicious here.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And that leaves me a bit suspicious here.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a coincidence &#8211; after reading Professor Filler&#8217;s posting, I, too, was suspicious: would  Professor Filler have laid out a similar posting of baseless innuendoes if the judge&#8217;s name instead had been, say, Judge Stephen Reinhardt&#8230;or if the plaintiff had in fact been a crack addict named Osama bin Hamdan.</p>
<p>Professor Filler seemingly inoculates himself with a meaningless declaration of &#8220;I&#8217;m not accusing Kosinski or his mates of being explicitly racist or sexist&#8221;. Thanks for clearing that one up! I mean, after reading about a WOMAN of unknown ethnicity or race winning in federal circuit court after spending twelve years in jail &#8211; well, who wouldn&#8217;t initiallty think that such a ruling could only come from some rascist, sexist neanderthal.</p>
<p>Perhaps if Judge Kosinski had merely wrapped his opinion around some kind of social policy-making (i.e. tied her conviction to a gambling addiction) &#8211; maybe then Professor Filler would have been a bit more understanding, if not downright effusove with praise&#8230;but, no,  instead Judge Kosinski made a &#8220;&#8221;most controversial move&#8221;; he decided &#8220;to interpret a statute according to its plain text&#8221;.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m not accusing Professor Filler of being explicitly a liberal law professor out to impugn a judge he doesn&#8217;t agree with. It&#8217;s just that I&#8217;ve spent enough time around liberals to know that, when it comes to judges considered not to be connected to their inner William Kunstlers, well, anything goes. And that leaves me a bit suspicious here.</p>
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