EBay Fraud
posted by Mike Dimino
I appear to be the victim of EBay fraud. I purchased a Playstation 2 video game system for my older son — yeah, um, my son — and have not received it. A look into the seller’s feedback reveals that he/she fleeced a bunch of other people at the same time (Christmas and surrounding days) and is no longer a registered user.
I wonder if the people who study consumer issues more than I do have ideas as to (a) whether this sort of fraud is significantly hurting EBay in its quest to be the world’s marketplace, and (b) what EBay should do about it. Is it appropriate, for example, to require a bond be posted before selling items?
One never likes to blame the victim, particularly when one is the victim in question, but I could have avoided the whole mess by dealing only with clearly reputable sellers. On the other hand, such a limit would (I suspect) lessen the competitive advantages that a wide-open EBay market provides.
January 10, 2006 at 10:44 am
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Stephen Laniel’s Unspecified Bunker - January 10, 2006 at 11:11 am
Fraud on eBay
Doesn’t it seem as though eBay should bear the cost of fraud on its
site? The margin isn’t large enough to contain the argument, but
it seems to me that they’re the least-cost fraud enforcer.
They’d take out an insurance policy to
Chris - January 10, 2006 at 11:31 am
PayPal (and others) offer consumer protection services if you are willing to pay the surcharge. Perhaps eBay could make these services more prominent (especially for high priced items) but they are available.
Cyrus - January 10, 2006 at 4:31 pm
From what I understand, if you paid through paypal, you should be able to get your money back. I remember reading awhile back from sellers complaining that paypal was *too* consumer friendly, and would make refunds in the vast majority of cases. So, I’d start there.
(Also, if you paid through paypal using a credit card, instead of a bank account, your credit card can protect you too, though this violates paypal’s terms of service, I think.)
Jason - January 11, 2006 at 5:19 pm
It’s a little late now but I can offer you some advice for the future. I have been buying & selling on eBay for about 7 years now and have had a few instances of fraud myself which I have learned from. I noticed this seller seemed to have some positive feedback from items he had sold recently but notice that they were all small items (ie under $50 generally). This is a tactic used to build up feedback and then later sell a higher priced item and not deliver the goods. Paying with paypal is the best way to prevent any problems that could happen. Only buying from a Paypal verified seller is of utmost importance. I noticed the seller you purchased from isn’t paypal verified and therefore you don’t see the paypal logo and buyer protection offered. If you look at one of my recent auctions you will see that it shows Free Paypal Buyer Protection under my name. Always look for that. This way you are guaranteed $1000 back if the seller doesn’t deliver the goods. More info about the paypal buyer protection can be found here.
Another word of advice which I find helps is if you are at all concerned about the validity of the seller use the eBay feature to request the sellers contact info. Then give them a personal phone call before paying to make sure the sellers name and phone matches what is on eBay. I have found that often this info is wrong and if you report it to eBay they will take action against this seller. I hope this info helps.
Mike Dimino - January 11, 2006 at 11:02 pm
Many thanks to all who have offered suggestions.
gumshoo spots auction fraud - January 13, 2006 at 1:52 am
I highly recommend using gumshoo.com for all your eBay shopping. gumshoo is a free eBay search service that automatically scans eBay listings for signs of potential fraud. It’s especially helpful for buyers new to eBay who often get scammed because they don’t know the ins and outs of avoiding online auction fraud.
Rich - January 16, 2006 at 5:50 pm
Others have covered practical aspects – although straight off, I would never buy a substantive item from a seller with less than several hundred feedbacks and a rating of at least 99%. Or make an arrangement where the cash only gets handed over when the good are in my hands. (Can be done if you live not too far away.)
You also ask if this is hurting eBay. There is no simple answer. Writing from the other side of the pond, I can’t speak for eBay US. But consider these points – how is eBay executive compensation structured? If it’s weighted to short term returns, then there is an incentive for eBay management to turn a blind eye to fraud.
Fighting fraud is expensive and banning too many sellers cuts down on fees.
Looking at how eBay manages fraud in Europe, it would seem that eBay has little concern about small scale fraud on their site.
Does this matter to stockholders? Not if they too are equally short termist, when their views would be aligned with management.
Take this a stage further; I would say that eBay, from what I have seen, has little or no interest in fighting fraud. If so, that reflects an American corporate culture which has abrogated its moral obligations – eBay just hasn’t gone as far as the Enrons of this world.
I’m not sure about bringing competitive advantages into this – eBay is de facto a monopoly in many respects. So no, it’s not hurting them.
Paul Teltschik - January 18, 2006 at 6:42 am
I was a victim of fraud on e-bay a few years a ago. I purchased a canteen of solid siver cutlery for $999 plus postage(airmail) and insurance from a seller in the Slovak Republic. The seller had a 100% positive feedback. I paid via a bank transfer as he did not accept Paypal. After waiting for over two weeks,I contacted the seller to find out what what was going on, he replied a few days later that the Post Office had sent the item surface mail. Two weeks later I contacted the seller as still nothing had arrived. He promised to refund the money and requested my bank details. I checked with my bank a few days latter to see if the money had been refunded, nothing. I contacted the seller and my e-mail was returned “Undeliverable” the seller had disconnected his e-mail and in the meantime also removed all his items he was selling on e-bay. I contacted e-bay to report the incident. I received two automated e-mails from e-bay over the next two weeks to say that they have not been able to contact the seller. I could have told e-bay this. I have registered the incident with the police, but there is nothing they can do unless the seller comes over to this country and walks into the police station and gives himself up. Surely a company as big as e-bay should be able to prosecute on an international basis.
Andy Arbiter - May 22, 2006 at 9:20 pm
Here’s one. Don’t Laugh. I baught a Rolex 18k and SS watch with a Buy-it-Now price of $500. I paid for the item which was being sold by a woman from Washington State. Minutes after it was paid for on PayPal, eBay stopped the auction and sent me a TKO email advising me to file a claim to recover payment from PayPal. I did so, but several days later, a party from Hong Kong shipped me a watch and told PayPal that it was shipped. What I received was a counterfeit Rolex. Unfortunately PayPal closed the dispute because the seller shipped it to me. I wan not allowed to update my dispute or open a new dispute because PayPal’s policy is one dispute per item. I’m out $525, but here’s the real scam: A seller can sell an item, say a watch and withhold shipment until the buyer issues an ITEM NOT RECEIVED dispute. Once this is done, the seller can go ahead and ship a bag of coal to the buyer. So long as the seller can prove that he shipped something, PayPal will close the dispute and not allow a buyer to open a new one….bag of coal, Folex…they are worth about the same. I’m looking into a class action lawsuit. IF anybody has fallen prey to this debacle, let me know.
BURNT HERE - May 24, 2006 at 7:43 pm
THIS IS JUST A WARNING FOR ANYONE THINKING ABOUT BUYING ANYTHING FROM THIS PERSON.I BOUGHT THIS ITEM HERE,,#6053202793,,,SENT MY US POSTAL MONEY ORDER,SHE EMAILED ME THAT SHE RECEIVED IT AND WOULD SEND ME MY WATCH…WELL LOW AND BEHOLD I RECEIVED THIS EMAIL FROM HER TODAY WHICH SHE WRITES THIS,,,, have you recieved it yet? I had thought this was mailed out already, I will look again to make sure. linda.
WELL I NEVER RECEIVED IT AND HERE IS SOME OF HER FEED BACKS FROM OTHERS WHO NEVER RECEIVED NOTHING FROM THIS SELLER LISTED HERE,,,,,,,
AND BE SURE TO READ BOTH PAGES OF FEEDBACKS.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=linda7412&items=200&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=6053202793&de=off
pwrslm - July 7, 2006 at 12:46 pm
There is another seller with fuel pumps representing them as AC DELCO, and claims to be certified by General Motors and the pumps are covered under GM’s 12 month warranty. Called GM, they know this guy, thier legal team is investigating him. Its all a lie, he is not a GM or an AC Delco distributor, and GM will not warrant the pumps.
The pumps are look likes, they have a sticker for an emissions component on top that has an AC Delco sticker on it, so its easy for them to fool buyers. Thats the only part of the pump thats AC Delco, the rest comes from other places, and the warranty is bogus, only serviced by the seller….
Ebay knows this, they wont do anything about it. The seller has over 8000 sales in the last 12 months, average over 700 per month currently.
Dee - July 18, 2006 at 12:12 pm
In response to message left by Andy Arbiter in May. We were just scammed by e-bay (or supposedly) for $3500.00. E-bay is telling us that even through it was an exact copy of e-bay fraud protection and buy back quarantee policy that we are out of luck and out the money. has anyone got any ideas as to how to pursue this against e-bay and hopefully recover our money.
Jeff - August 2, 2006 at 10:23 am
I am also the recent victim of eBay fraud. Sent a $1399 cashier’s check for a Nikon D200 digital SLR. Similar to above stories I received an email saying it’s in the mail. Then he’s calling UPS. Then he’s sending a refund. Blah blah… I recently reported to FBI’s Cyber crime unit (http://www.fbi.gov/cyberinvest/cyberhome.htm) I am reluctant to escalate my ebay dispute to a claim, because then I’ll only get $175 out of the $1399. seems like eBay should have a better policy for protecting its users. Anyone know of any good lawyers willing to at least make a lot of noise at eBay (All I want is a refund, which would seem small money for Ebay and easier to settle than pay their lawyers to fight what is a small claim in the grand scheme of things). Any other ideas of how I can go after the seller (he’s in California and I’m in Rhode Island)
Scammed - August 11, 2006 at 4:56 pm
My wife got scammed on ebay motors a few years back. Seller still on ebay and has more accusations. Read about it at http://www.boycottebaymotors.com. Be very cautious about ebay and its sellers.
Richard Minns - August 15, 2006 at 6:28 pm
Just so you all know, it’s not only buyers who are victims of fraud. I sold my laptop on eBay three weeks ago. The auction ended with a winning bid, and I then received the official PayPal instant payment confirmation email. I double checked my PayPal balance and when I saw the money had indeed been paid to me I proceeded to send the laptop as directed. Three days later I get an online message from eBay stating that the winning bidder’s account was most likely being used by someone other than the real owner of the account, and that any bids should be considered null and void!! Great help considering the auction had already ended with a winning bid! A couple of days later I then receive an email from the person who paid for the item through paypal, stating that their bank account was £650 in arrears and that the transaction was unauthorised. Paypal opened a dispute and asked me to submit any relevant info which would help them with the dispute. I send them the tracking info for the item and where it was sent to. A few days later I get an email from Paypal stating the dispute had been resolved and to log into my account to check the resolution centre, which I did only to see my Paypal account negative by £650. All they had done was to repay the user concerned and said that I am liable for the money. So I am a laptop and £650 down. As far as I can work out, both eBay and paypal let their system be used by fraudulent means, and me, who did everything in good faith and as I have done for the past three years be the one who is liable. Something really doesn’t seem right with this, so I am going to take it to the solicitors to see what can be done.
Kit - August 21, 2006 at 3:07 pm
took a chance, bought a fake cartier. pending paypal claim.
i’ve been on ebay forever, with 1200+ stars buying and selling but i’ve little or no faith in ebay or paypal. you don’t get much of your money back anyway even if you do win a claim. and as many know already, their customer service is impersonal and not helpful. don’t blame them though, these people are flooded with similar complaints all the time. and they’re not paid much either.
best way is to get a credit card chargeback.. so what if it’s against paypal policies? i know it cancels the claim but if paypal can’t get your cash back, you gotta do what you gotta do.
ebay has a stupid new rule where you cannot contact another member if you’re not involved in a transaction. so much for banding together with other victims. i wanted to warn the other buyers about what they were getting into. mainly, that if they were ripped off like me, to urge them to file claims so this crook can be kicked off. oh well.
too bad we can’t all sue ebay or something. they’ve made so much money off me in the past 6 years. it’s a real bummer they don’t do enough to protect honest buyers and sellers.
Gemini - August 22, 2006 at 12:00 am
I have bought and sold on eBay for a couple of years and there is no bigger fraud on eBay than eBay/PayPal itself. They lie to buyers and they lie to sellers. So, why wouldn’t thieves flock to the biggest den of thieves in the world? Do yourself and your country a favor and buy from your small local merchants before they are gone, NOT on eBay.
Bryan Jones - September 12, 2006 at 12:07 pm
I was recently scammed by someone called Kevin Thomas. He sent me and email and a fake Ebay invoice informing me that I was given a second chance offer on a 2000 Dodge Avenger. I was thrilled, but made the mistake of thinking that we were working through ebay. I did everything I could to get the money, even borrowed. Now on the invoice it said that Ebay did not have a paypal account set up that I could use for this transaction overseas in Milano, Italy. I said that I could send the money through Western Union and said that the Seller had a $20,000 policy through ebay and that he could be trusted. So like the fool I was, I sent the money, and was expecting to here about when the car would ship from his wife in Newark, Delaware. But the email stop coming and I begin to worry. Later on I found that he had gotten my information, the car information, the amount that I bidded, off of ebay motors, and he also got a copy of the invoice from ebay. I wish that I could hunt him down, find him, and leave him devasted like I was (only not moving anymore). So if you are on Ebay Motors, Watch out for any Second Chance Offers if you do not find them on My Ebay. If it is not there, it is a scam, and I know that if it happens to you, ebay will not help you when it comes to trying to get your money back.
Bryan Jones - September 12, 2006 at 12:12 pm
I was recently scammed by someone called Kevin Thomas. He sent me and email and a fake Ebay invoice informing me that I was given a second chance offer on a 2000 Dodge Avenger. I was thrilled, but made the mistake of thinking that we were working through ebay. I did everything I could to get the money, even borrowed. Now on the invoice it said that Ebay did not have a paypal account set up that I could use for this transaction overseas in Milano, Italy. I said that I could send the money through Western Union and said that the Seller had a $20,000 policy through ebay and that he could be trusted. So like the fool I was, I sent the money, and was expecting to here about when the car would ship from his wife in Newark, Delaware. But the email stop coming and I begin to worry. Later on I found that he had gotten my information, the car information, the amount that I bidded, off of ebay motors, and he also got a copy of the invoice from ebay. I wish that I could hunt him down, find him, and leave him devasted like I was (only not moving anymore). So if you are on Ebay Motors, Watch out for any Second Chance Offers if you do not find them on My Ebay. If it is not there, it is a scam, and I know that if it happens to you, ebay will not help you when it comes to trying to get your money back. So watch out for emails that are posted from the email address of Kevin_Thomas04@yahoo.com.
Amanda - September 15, 2006 at 6:37 pm
I know of a fraudulent seller (well*suited) who scammed people by selling resale designer clothing & shoes as NWOT. If seller didn’t get good enough bid, would claim item lost in mail and relist several weeks later. Put FB to private when things started to heat up and finally got desperate for money and left buyers high and dry – accepted payment, never shipped and walked away with several hundred dollars. Ebay booted seller 3 times yet seller is back again as weeter12, hiding by using mother’s info to become an ebay member again. Apparently even if ebay gets these frauds out they can easily come back again. Any 1st time transaction with a seller is a risky one!
Cres - September 17, 2006 at 1:59 pm
By the way, sdblessings has several other complaints filed with Paypal.
Cres - September 17, 2006 at 2:00 pm
By the way, sdblessings has several other complaints filed with Paypal.
lynn mccleary - September 26, 2006 at 10:56 pm
my son is another ’second chance’ victim, he stupidly western union transferred $1450 to pay for a television, he received an email (which he thought was via ebay), to say he had a second chance offer, scammers email address is oli_stan1950@yahoo.com leaves an awful taste in your mouth, young aussie bloke building his first house and some turd rips him off, if only we had a way of tracking down these people and giving them what they deserve
Nancy Becker - October 1, 2006 at 10:56 am
Comforted to see I am not alone in my frustration. I bought a mixer in August and never got the item. $300 out of my start up business fund. Seller did not accept PayPal but did use BidPay. Payment sent through them and cleared within 1 day. Seller Katrina Schnieder (kenbenkas on Ebay). Email sent after two weeks, with alot of bogus excuses and a ‘guarantee’ that I would have the mixer the next week. Surprise, Surprise, no mixer two weeks later. Sent her another email advising that I was going to open a claim and contact police, no response. This was a seller that fits the profile of selling many little things to build a high feedback rating then begin selling larger things for the cash and removed her registration status. Feedback was good until the month of August when she started not paying or paying with bad checks and not sending items that she sold.
This was only my third Ebay purchase and I will never purchase anything on Ebay again!! Who needs this aggravation?
Mark Sier - October 4, 2006 at 12:48 pm
I just got ripped off on a gold auction by a man named Jeffrey Hollis. He built his feedback up slowly, listing jeans and small clothing items, until he had around 90 when he finally listed 3 lots of gold, at $550. each. I bought two, and someone else bought the third. I paid via Moneyorder because he did not accept PayPal. $1100. After that, it was the same old story, the gold was returned (undeliverable), it’s in the mail, etc. etc….then three weeks ago I noticed that the SAME AUCTION was listed again. Same picture, same wording, Everything! finally today I left him negative feedback and I’ll file a police report, but again, there is so little that can be done. Lesson learned here. All the money I’ve saved through Ebay has now gone to nothing because of this man. His name is Jeffrey Hollis, ebay id subsite30.
Jocie Dobson - October 7, 2006 at 10:53 pm
My partner was also the subject of the 2nd chance scam, and lost $2,500 AUD. The same method as listed above – he was offered a second chance on a computer he had bid for.
He received an email saying that the seller had $20,000 in an eBay account and that Western Union would therefore be secured.
As soon as I saw that, alarm bells went off for me, but it was my partner’s 1st eBay transaction, and he really wanted this new Apple portable computer, so he wouldn’t listen to my warnings that eBay warn that you should never use Western Union.
He was so excited, so proud of what he was doing, but now he’s so ashamed he won’t talk about it, or investigate it further, other than to hand all the details over the local police who have forwarded copies of all emails to Interpol.
They say that because the transaction is under a magical figure it will fall under the radar of Interpol, so won’t go further.
But if several people got together and pooled their info, I wonder whether Interpol would be more interested???
The computer was supposedly in Brisbane Australia (where we live) but the seller was in England. The seller called himself Tomas (or Tom) Hank (My partner was also the subject of the 2nd chance scam, and lost $2,500 AUD. The same method as listed above – he was offered a second chance on a computer he had bid for.
He received an email saying that the seller had $20,000 in an eBay account and that Western Union would therefore be secured.
As soon as I saw that, alarm bells went off for me, but it was my partner’s 1st eBay transaction, and he really wanted this new Apple portable computer, so he wouldn’t listen to my warnings that eBay warn that you should never use Western Union.
He was so excited, so proud of what he was doing, but now he’s so ashamed he won’t talk about it, or investigate it further, other than to hand all the details over the local police who have forwarded copies of all emails to Interpol.
They say that because the transaction is under a magical figure it will fall under the radar of Interpol, so won’t go further.
But if several people got together and pooled their info, I wonder whether Interpol would be more interested???
The computer was supposedly in Brisbane Australia (where we live) but the seller was in England. The seller called himself Tomas (or Tom) Hank (Kevin_Thomas04@yahoo.com mentioned by Bryan Jones???
Anyone who has fallen victim to this particular scam, please feel free to contact me.
Jocie
jocie_dobson@yahoo.co.au
ps the preview of this comment looks really weird, with most of my message doubled up and some of it missing. I apologise if it comes through all skewed up.
julie - October 9, 2006 at 8:40 am
i have recently been ripped of by a person named ola.1977(39)name and address were item went martinez andreas,nussdorferstrasse,1/18 wien, austria,1090, do not deal with this person he said my funds were in a safe escrow site called http://www.i-safepal.com they are rippoffs and cost me over 2 grand no money no item back they are just lying thiefs and i hope they rot in hell
T L HALL - October 12, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Yes you are right on about E Bay .I thought i had bought a 1969 ford cobra,But was ripped off and then E Bay ripped me off.I sent $2,95000 by western union,but got no car,Ebay said i would not come under the 20,000 Coverage since the invoice ,looked like it was from E bay ,but was not.Ebay is a rip off.
T L HALL - October 12, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Yes you are right on about E Bay .I thought i had bought a 1969 ford cobra,But was ripped off and then E Bay ripped me off.I sent $2,95000 by western union,but got no car,Ebay said i would not come under the 20,000 Coverage since the invoice ,looked like it was from E bay ,but was not.Ebay is a rip off.
Chris - October 14, 2006 at 8:38 pm
Daniel Hopkins asked me to help him to sell some laptops, i doubt a little bit but i did it, and an ebay member sent me a message said that this is a scam, so i end the listing early. Anybody had some experience like this?
Michael - October 20, 2006 at 6:05 pm
Almost got scammed on ebay motors, I will not list the names as I am not 100% sure but from what I`ve seen it looks something like this. Buyer says not to contact him/her by “ask seller a question” but to email directly, the excuse for this is usualy something like “I have problems with accessing mail on my account”. I`ve seen several such lisings all with different names, I ruled out that they are all form one person by looking at text writing style and email names. The price for the car that is listed is usualy by far lower than it would normaly be. As others have mentioned here, first they sell small items than move on to bigger ones. The worst thing is that nothing is done to prevent it or it`s not efficient enough. With all that said I would strongly advice not to buy anything on ebay. Got really dissapointed by this situation as this could be my first buy on ebay, will not use this service ever again. Good thing I did some research on this.
P.S Sorry for my bad english as it is not my native. Keep your eyes open!
Erica - October 21, 2006 at 11:37 pm
Hey guys,
I’ve been scammed TWICE through Ebay and lost a total of $1000 – once very foolishly (got a spoof email, then did a Western Union transfer for a Sprint Treo phone), once somewhat foolishly (paid through personal check for a Louis Vuitton bag). This is so tragic and heartless – I work and get less than minimum wage. $1000 in cash takes me MONTHS to save up, and now I can’t make rent this month! Does anyone have any advice? Can I file a police report? The first time is out of the question – the seller was out of the US, but the second seller lives in NJ and I’m in CA.
Please someone help or share advice! Thank you…
Meredith - October 22, 2006 at 12:07 pm
Watch out for Justerini Fuller in London, UK. I too was scammed trying to buy an Apple laptop for my son. Got one of those fake second chance bid invites that I thought was from EBay, then wired the money via Western Union.
My first experience with EBay…trust me, I won’t be so careless next time!
Jack Wayngton - October 23, 2006 at 9:06 pm
You get ripped of by a fake escrow or sent a escrow URL thats looks shakey. Drop me an e-mail I will check it out, get back to you. and-or get it shut down.
jackway42@yahoo.com
Thanks
tanya - October 25, 2006 at 10:57 am
I too saw the ad about looking for someone with an ebay account to sell laptops for them. I got a call at 945pm last night
Yfrom someone by the name of Cathy from area code 708-489-0138
talking about this. She will give you a website
http://www.geocities.com/magicauctions123 with instructions.
Research showed me this site. I made a post immediately after the ebay post warning people. I’ll try to do what I can to warn everyone about this.
Mad as Hell - October 26, 2006 at 10:05 am
I too have been taken for a ride and I am pissed as hell. I hope the seller gets karma back for being unethical and stealing. What a fool I am. I usually pay with only PayPal but this time I stupidly went for the money order/cashier check only. A convenience only for the seller as I had to go to the bank and buy a money order. To this date I am out 110 bucks. Moral of the story, don’t send wire transfers, money orders, checks to ebay sellers. It is just too risky. I won’t be the fool again.
Terri MAckovich - October 27, 2006 at 9:47 pm
I was ripped off by KENBENKAS on ebay as ell. She’s been feeding me excused for two months over my item I won from her. Then when I called her on the scam she said”how dare you accuse me af a scam, I’m an honest person” That’s crap. I filed reports with ebay and the USPS. No response so far. I will keep calling her at her home.
John Antill - October 28, 2006 at 11:16 pm
Concerning scamming and fraud on ebay. magicauctions123@yahoo.com has relisted 2 new items. If you are scammed on ebay try to do a continuous search for the email address and stop them from doing it again. Also I have had problems with sellers before and love the fraud protection on my credit card to stop them dead.
Adela Silver - October 29, 2006 at 10:21 pm
I was a victim of fraud on October 17, 2006 by Ebayer bsyldy1 of Lavergne, TN. The name of this person is supposedly Lynn Stutsman. Another person who posed as an Ebay agent for the fake transaction is Julia Ritzsmanst is in on the whole scam and actually picked up the wired money in Plano, Texas. I thought I was purchasing a 2005 Pontiac Vibe and paid $2950 via Western Union. NEVER wire money to anyone on Ebay if after this you still choose to buy/sell on their site. I have had no support from Ebay, the Police, IC3.gov or any other agency that I have been referred to. I keep getting handed off from one to the other.
Kevin Hayes - November 1, 2006 at 3:51 pm
I was recently ripped off by a woman in Chicago who lives in an apartment complex that goes for 500,000-1,000,000 dollars per unit. It was the (apparently) classic second-chance scheme. Her name is Stephane Udvary. What the hell is the world coming to? GRRR…
Justin - November 3, 2006 at 10:01 am
Hi Guys,
I sent this email to ebay
What do you all think?
Listing Policy Breaches > Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, item not
received, etc.) > You suspect that a listing is fraudulent (you didn’t bid)
Item number(s):
270049626230
270049626865
130042847915
190046842680
190046843187
Message: To whom it may concern
I suspect fradulent activity in the above items as well as others that I have
not included.For further items and to research yourself,please do a search on
ebay for “htc tytn phone” and select “international ebay”
Most items (if not all) seem to be fraudulent.
1)The items are too cheap.
2)Seller is listed in another location as oposed to the item location
3)Some sellers have a rating of “0″
4) Some sellers do have ratings but when you see what items they purchased and
how they got those ratings
a)You cant view the item
b)They bought from users (potentially in cahoots with eich other)items such as
“marble recipe cheese cake” for 1 USA cent as well as some other rudiculous
items
c)The buyers that they bought from therefor have a higher rating making the
rating system totally bogus and untrustworthy
d)There are no “from buyers” ratings on the user except for “from sellers”
ratings?
e)The Transactions all seem to be taken place over a short period (ie:6 months)
I do believe this is a ripple effect and would appreciate that this be dealt
with immediately and a response to my email answering all questions will be
greatly appreciated.
I also trust that the TOP Management will invstigate into this cause further.
Thank you
ebay user
Justin Zar - November 3, 2006 at 10:03 am
I also sent them this email!
Listing Policy Breaches > Fraudulent listings (illegal seller demands, item not
received, etc.) > You suspect that a listing is fraudulent (you didn’t bid)
Item number(s):
120047122972
Message: In addition to another email sent to you
Trust & Safety (KMM1245375V63878L0KM),
I believe I have further proof on Fraudulent listing.
Firstly the ebay user “ukdigi” has a rating of 8592 (8594 Positive and 2
negative),but how can he have 9015 positive feedbacks.
if you look into his account, you will see that
PastMonth Past6 Months Past 12 Months
positive 8581 9015 9015
neutral 0 0 0
negative 5 5 5
Every single one of that feedback is related to item 120047122972 (ADKINS DIET +
1000 RECIPES, EBOOK FREE SHIPPING, SHIP)
I dont believe this
Some people have bought this item numerous times like user “perchet” and
“eldacharm” both of whom have MASSIVE RATINGS.
I have not delved into this further,but sincerely hope ebay will
Concerned ebay user
JP Azzopardi Holland - November 10, 2006 at 2:36 pm
*E BAY* Re: Tuta_Punt Telecom in Spain sellers name Elias Campo. I payed him in full for an Acer laptop Centrino Duo $1,500 on 18th September. He he used to answer instantly with specifications etc and even that he received the money (bank transfer)I never received anything. E Bay sucks all they care is making super normal profits and listing on Stock Exchanges. *Paypall* is recomended to be used on E Bay because they own it not because it’s better than other insurances. The seller also sent me an unpaid strike after paying him $1,500 can you believe that?
Ebay does not offer a call centre when it owns *Skype* free phone over the internet my God. Why? I hope every one understands how these guys are making millions evey day.
JP Azzopardi Holland - November 10, 2006 at 2:37 pm
*E BAY* Re: Tuta_Punt Telecom in Spain sellers name Elias Campo. I payed him in full for an Acer laptop Centrino Duo $1,500 on 18th September. He he used to answer instantly with specifications etc and even that he received the money (bank transfer)I never received anything. E Bay sucks all they care is making super normal profits and listing on Stock Exchanges. *Paypall* is recomended to be used on E Bay because they own it not because it’s better than other insurances. The seller also sent me an unpaid strike after paying him $1,500 can you believe that?
Ebay does not offer a call centre when it owns *Skype* free phone over the internet my God. Why? I hope every one understands how these guys are making millions evey day.
Scaminator - November 13, 2006 at 3:22 am
I am a volunteer worker for a group that busts scammers and quite often gets money back to victims. The fact is that authorities dont care. Its up to the community to fight these a$$holes. If you have been scammed then let us know about it, at the very least your info could help us catch someone who has scammed a lot of people, NOT JUST YOU!
http://www.scaminators.org
Ann - November 14, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Ripped off by Kenbenkas on Ebay also. Sent her a money order for $114.00 for a Graco Einstein baby swing and activity gym. I know she received the money order because there was a tracking number, which showed that it was delivered. When I did not receive the items I contacted her for a refund since I did include the cost of insurance, and she promised to mail me a cheque. That was weeks ago. Still no refund.
Kat Kramer - November 22, 2006 at 4:26 pm
I have run across the same problem as Justin described with the false feedback ratings…Justin, please mail me at kat@mac.com! (or anyone else who’s got beef with this issue) I am starting to think that a class-action lawsuit may be in order. I have also just filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, which you can also do online. The only problem is they say you can only file a complaint if you’ve lost money.
The basic premise is this. A seller puts penny auctions up on eBay. Buyers purchase these penny items, then give the seller positive feedback ratings to the buyer, who in return gives positive ratings to the seller. Everybody wins…except for honest eBayers who rely on these ratings.
I tried to buy Swarovski beads back in April 2006. The seller seemed to have a good feedback rating…I think it was 98.5%, which looked okay, but not great. Since I was buying beads, and the purchases were small, I didn’t look further. But when I tried to pay, they used another service, not PayPal, and it wouldn’t let me pay.
So I wrote eBay’s Safe Harbor group (what a JOKE!) and told them about this seller. I got the runaround. But meanwhile, I was bored, and started looking deeper in this seller.
I noticed that they had a large number of positive feedbacks, but there were several negatives. Comments showed that they weren’t delivering products. I started contacting other buyers and asking questions, which I was later informed by eBay was against the rules. I learned that everyone had lost money, received abusive feedback from the seller, and because it was below $25, eBay wouldn’t do anything. The only people who got their money back used credit cards. The FBI, Internet Crime Complaint Center, and local authorities wouldn’t do anything. Then I started looking even further into an “odd” listing from this seller for a penny recipe for Whisky Peppercorn Steak.” And I uncovered a web of deceit!
Most of the seller’s positive feedback was from penny auctions. I didn’t understand why these auctions were there, but I soon figured out that they were pumping up their feedback ratings, as I started clicking on actual auctions and noticing the small amounts and multiple purchases!
I tried posting the information on eBay’s forums, and eBay pulled my discussion. I tried calling the corporate office, and was hung up on. I tried writing more e-mails with no response. Then I started buying their Whisky Peppercorn recipes and using the feedback system to warn other users. I was threatened with legal action by eBay.
I just looked again last week, and found many penny auctions. You can search on “eBook,” “recipe,” or “wallpaper” and see this at work. Click here to see the penny auctions. Look for ones that are $0.01 with free delivery. Then look at the seller and start looking at their auctions. A lot of them will also be for penny auctions, and many will be PRIVATE! Some auctions require that buyers be on pre-approved buyer lists.
I also downloaded the eBook that specifically tells you how important feedback ratings are and how you can defraud sellers. I will try to add it to our server…click here to download. This is the actual book.
I have now registered a complaint (mid November 2006) with the Better Business Bureau, and have also sent the information to CNN requesting that they do a segment to warn other users.
Please contact me if you’ve been affected by this. Something needs to be done to get eBay’s attention!
Kat Kramer - November 22, 2006 at 4:35 pm
I wasn’t able to upload it to the server in my last posting, so I uploaded the eBook “Secrets of the Penny Auction” to another server. Click here to download and view this piece of crap!
David Fleming - November 24, 2006 at 1:22 pm
I bid on a magic mill and was out bid. Then the seller notifies me that the deal fell through and that if I was still interested, he would sell to me for my bid price and also pay shipping. So a few days go by and I receive four pages of info from ebay (fraudulent). I follow the directions to the T and wire (mistake) money to this jerk in Romania. So…good bye money and forget ever getting the magic mill. Another sucker bites the dust. Be careful and don’t do any business with this fellow..Visoiu Cosmin Stefan.
I should have known just from where he was from and his name, but trusting me…
Cata - November 27, 2006 at 5:35 pm
Hello ,
We are a company from Romania and we know all the scammers trick and we thought that it would be great to inform the ebay users about their latest scams. Please visit our web site(made by me) http://www.fraud-consult.com. We can realy stop this phenomenon together.
Mike - December 2, 2006 at 8:24 pm
I was a victim of fraud but for alot more than I have been reading about. I was given a second chance on a 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302. While the vehicle was listed on ebay the seller wanted the potential buyer to email him for more info. I emailed and got more info two days later and the vehicle was no longer on ebay. The seller said he was offered a Buy It Now price and the buyer backed out and that was why it was longer on ebay.We agreed on a purchase price of $6400.00 and the seller agreed to go through ebay vehicle payment protection program. Supposedly ebay sent me emails on how to proceed with the purchase. I wired the money to Zoard’s Transportation at the Scotia Bank in St. Catherines, Ontario, Canada. I even received confirmation of payment. I received no vehicle and and of course no money returned.
The ebay emails were so authenic looking that my banker said for me to proceed with the transaction. These guys are good. This was my first purchase on ebay and I can’t believe I got so screwed. The seller’s name on the email was Michael Lin and his email address was nrlbqa@gmail.com. This transaction occured on November 22, 2006 and I emailed ebay and have not gotten a response yet. Anybody that can help me get my money back please email me and I would appreciate it so much. I am just sick about this.
If it is too good to be true then it is.
Mike December 2, 2006
Lynn Stutsman - December 4, 2006 at 1:49 am
I response to this information about myself, that I found on your site: (see email that follows)
My name is Lynn Stutsman and according to the information listed by Ms. Silver below, I am guilty of defrauding her of $2950.00 for the sale of a car on ebay.
I have never sold ANYTHING on ebay. Purchased yes, sold no. I found out of these accusations when I was contacted by the Division of Consumer Affairs,just 2 days ago, on November 30, 2006.
Talk about a shock. I immediately checked my ebay account and a car had indeed been listed using my ebay user ID, without my knowledge. Somehow this person signed up as a seller under my user ID and even was able to access my financial information. I know this because they changed the account number listed in the system.
I contacted ebay immediately (by email because no phone number is to be found for them) and have yet to receive any response. I also contacted AOL because this person used an AOL screen name to communicate with Ms. Silver that is still active! ( Ms. Silver kept copies of all email correspondance thank goodness.)
I was told that AOL couldn’t give me any information but that they would expedite an investigation and get back with me. No word from them yet either.
I called the Division of Consumer Affairs, the agency who sent me a letter accusing me of this, and explained the situation to them. I was told to respond in writing within 10 days but that there was really nothing they could do to now help clear my name. Their next comment was, “Identity theft is a terrible thing.”
I’m aware of that!
I am in the process of having to close and re- open all bank accounts and report any credit card I had listed with ebay or pay pal as stolen. Ms. Silver was a victum of Fraud and theft and I was the victum of identity theft.
I have spoken personally with Ms. Silver and she now understands that I did not do this to her. Neither of us are getting any support in this matter. We are actually meeting in the next few days to see if we both contact the authorities together if we could get farther than either of us have alone.
Some advice: Be very careful what you do on ebay! I am so sorry for what happened to Ms. Silver but three very big mistakes were made while she attempted to make this purchase:
1. She responded to a second chance offer directly from this person.
2. She paid through Western Union instead of Pay Pal.
3. She sent the money to another person instead of the seller that was listed.
4. She communicated and finalized the transaction not on ebay but through email on AOL. The person who actually defrauded her was very smooth. Obviously a professional. They reversed two of the letters in my ebay user ID and created an Aol screen name with that slight change. If you weren’t paying very close attention you would never notice. Just like Ms. Silver never noticed. This made her think she was still communicating with the seller on ebay.
This has been a nightmare. I had no idea that any of this occured and now I not only have been the victim of identity theft, having to quickly cancel bank accounts and credit cards, but I also have to clear my name with approximately 8-10 agencies Ms. Silver reported me to, including the local police department.
Tonight I find this damaging information about me on your site. Very disturbing. Before you accuse someone, please be sure of the facts. I’m so sorry for what happened to her but now an innocent person has been wrongly accused and didn’t deserve to be.
Thank you,
Lynn Stutsman
Ms. Silvers original posting:
I was a victim of fraud on October 17, 2006 by Ebayer bsyldy1 of Lavergne, TN. The name of this person is supposedly Lynn Stutsman. Another person who posed as an Ebay agent for the fake transaction is Julia Ritzsmanst is in on the whole scam and actually picked up the wired money in Plano, Texas. I thought I was purchasing a 2005 Pontiac Vibe and paid $2950 via Western Union. NEVER wire money to anyone on Ebay if after this you still choose to buy/sell on their site. I have had no support from Ebay, the Police, IC3.gov or any other agency that I have been referred to. I keep getting handed off from one to the other.
Posted by: Adela Silver at October 29, 2006 10:21 PM
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Paul Ottensmann - December 13, 2006 at 11:06 pm
I won an auction #280048672729 and paid via cashiers check. I got a box, but nothing inside was the items listed in the auction. It was a Second Chance Offer from auction #280043813465. The winner of that auction also paid him and received a box of old videos. Collectively we are out $8,000. Any help appreciated. ANYONE WITH CONNECTIONS IN BOSTON, MA PLEASE CONTACT ME @ POTTENSMANN@NEW.RR.COM
win worrall - December 19, 2006 at 12:43 pm
I also was scammed by sending over 4000.00 to some in Helsinki, Finland selling large farm equipment. Name is Andrew Bower and it was bought through e-bay. When will someone put a stop to all this.
Mybad December 18, 2006
Barrie Blake - December 22, 2006 at 8:20 am
I was also ripped off my a Jeff(Jason) Hollis of Shreveport, LA on Sept 1/06 . Bought a Mackie 1620 mixer off e-ABay for $521 + $30 S/H and never recieved it. Said it was insured for up to $1000 using PayPal. Only recovered $175 from payPal as they charged $25 service fee. What a rip-off. Now will not buy off e-bay and my feedback is 676+ and 0- , so it is their loss.
Dalia - December 26, 2006 at 9:19 am
Hi. I have been fleeced out of almost 400.00 via an eBay auction. I bid and won a computer. The seller claims that it was immediate payment but it wasn’t. I won on 11/27 and paid for it via Paypal on 12/1/06. Two weeks later I contacted the seller to find out when I could expect delivery and he told me never. He had relisted and sold the computer and was keeping my money. He says that since it took me 4 days to pay I forfeited the auction. I filed a dispute with eBay, Paypal and my bank after Paypal informed me that I had to. Paypal told my bank that the transaction was good and they have decided that I have to pursue this through Paypal. Well, Paypal will only consider refunding 200.00 of which they take 25.00 as their investigative fees. Also, the seller has faxed them “proof” of a partial refund. I don’t think I have to tell you that I never recieved anything including an answer to my query of what he supposedly sent me. Now I am going to have to hire an attorney and file criminal charges. I have been on eBay for almost 10 years and am thankful that this is the only time that something like this has happened. Now for my question, do any of you know of any other way that I can get my money back? Paypal won’t even tell me the seller’s address.
Sandra - January 4, 2007 at 8:49 pm
http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=
Check it out never buy without checking feedback
first
Bobby B. Stovall - January 5, 2007 at 3:07 pm
This message is for Mike re his 12/2/06 posting concerning Michael Lin: I got hit too with all ebay authentic emails and responses. I got a response from ebay but they would not release his contact information even though it is probably available. If you get this and want to respond. contact me via my email. Bobby
Steve - January 6, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Well, I have to start with “Happy new year everyone!”
Then to the serious part.
I have been taken for over $1000 from paypal because they do no have the proper insurance that regular credit card company would have, and that is the consumer protection against fraudulent transaction. for example if someone comes to your store with a stolen credit card and bought $1000 worth of stuff, well the credit card company would never, never, never take the money back out of your account.
My personal opinion about Paypal is just a “CHEAP WANNABE” with NO pride and respect for their costumers. All they care about is making more money. What about this poor guy that sell is prize possession to pay his bills and then come to find out that the person that bought it used fraudulent funds? Well, if the guy would have used “visa” for example, nothing would happened, BUT if he used Paypal his account would go in the red… “Go figure”
I`m sorry if you work for them, I am not trying to hurt anyones feelings, just hoping that I can open some peoples eyes to where Paypal may actually do what credit cards company would do, or NOT do.
Sincerely
Stecool
terry - January 13, 2007 at 2:08 am
i too was taken for 150.00 for n.b.a. jerseys i bought from thomval (thafiveanddimestore) i sent a money order and she cashed it a week later and that is the last i heard from AMANDA GIVENS i even called the phone number provided and she hung up on me. the real funny part- e-bay would not allow me to leave a negative feedback to warn others, e-bay also gave me the runaround. with their kind ,sympathetic words. i don’t want their sympathy, i want my money back.
Mikhail - January 19, 2007 at 12:03 am
I am not a victim but could easily be the one.
I saw tonight a posting for a Fuji 6×17 camera sold by belle_cashmere store. There were some other high tech items sold by the same seller (Power Seller, by the way!). All items were priced at 1000GBP which was several times below the market price. And there was a note to send requests directly to arrgger@cs.com, not through bidding process.
When I checked history of belle_cashmere I found that the store was selling only gloves, scarfs and other woven products. No high tech gear at all.
Now my question is – what kind of technology eBay uses that it is so easy to hack its site and substitute some stuff under some other seller’s name?
I almost positive that this “seller” is not belle_cashmere and the posted items do not exist.
I sent a question to eBay’s security center but have not received any response so far.
P.S. All listings are marked as 24 hour sales (take the money and go away)
Carol Habets - January 21, 2007 at 11:22 am
Happy New Year to me: I purchased an embroidery/sewing machine on 1/18, was a listing asking to contact seller before bidding. Offered a buy-it-now price, said everything was “legit” thru e-bay and they were using i-Sold It for their transaction, item was all packed and ready to be shipped. This bozo even said he was on his honeymoon in London but not to worry with i-Sold It, he was insured, rated, etc. I got the ‘invoice’ from i-S. and they had his name plugged in with all this high rating info and reassurances, told all about the process, (of course I was to send via Western Union, which I stupidly did), and the forms looked official with e-Bay logo, i-Sold it logo’s, the works. The e-Bay listing was yanked so fast that I didn’t even get a copy of the listing and item number! That evening I started receiving e-mails from the “i-Sold It Trust dept.” in charge of the sale, asking me to verify the name of the seller and the name of the agent who was supposed to receive the payment on seller’s behalf. My radar went up, I e-mailed back and they asked again, telling me to just send a scanned copy of the Western Union receipt. They e-mailed back afterward and said everything was OK and they would start shipping process. I have been e-mailing since Friday for proof of shipment, tracking number, etc. and (naturally) I am getting nada. I feel like such a gullible idiot after reading all of your posts…I will never use ANY kind of online auction again. Has anyone else been scammed by an i-Sold It connection? I am just sick because this was to be my $1200 birthday gift from my husband. I have an e-mail in to i-Sold It in UK, but no response yet…
Tony M - January 23, 2007 at 6:23 am
Beware of a Joshua Goldstein. I sent him 1K for a laptop that never arrived, after being held up at customs etc etc.
He has been deregistered by ebay but reckons he trades at amazon under es electronics.
Ebay and paypal have been pathetic, I got 175 back after naively? upping my dispute to a claim or vice versa.
I will be cancelling my accounts at both once all hope of retrieval is lost.
Emilie - February 8, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Hi!
I was just victim of a small fraud, there wasn’t much money involved but i’m not very rich…
I bought a dvd box set from a seller, paid through paypal, the money went through very quickly. In the mean time, I received a tko email notifying me that a 3rd party had been using the account. I received 2 emails from paypal One for the receipt, the other for the tracking. the seller email addresses are different on each email. it seems that they come from China. there is a tracking number but ems has no record of it. I’ve filled a claim form on paypal. i have not much hope, but is there anything i can do? i read somewhere here that you have more protection using a credit card, which i did. what exactly am i supposed to do to stop the payment or get it back?
thanks for any help!
Jacques - February 13, 2007 at 11:30 pm
I, too, was a victim of “Second Chance Offer”. A crook posed as the seller of a vehicle and scammed me of $2000. I filed a police report to no avail. I now realize how useless the Washington, DC police Fraud Department can be. They have all the needed information (the crook’s Bank of America Account Number and other correspondence). I filed the report and the Police Fraud Department kept giving me the run around. Finally, I stopped calling the police department. Ebay and the Police Department are useless in this regard. I am for any “Class Action Suit” against Ebay for allowing a crook to get my email address and send me fraudulent second chance offer.
Thanks,
Michael - February 16, 2007 at 4:20 am
Hello!
I had payed for 3 items + shipping for $100 from Japan seller: Anime X and 2 items are never arrived and another was send defect. Than I have try to get a compensation but I receive only lies.
As I have give a negativ feedback I receive a negative feedback too. As I took back the feedback
Anime X have never send the items or the money back.
The best is, before bid to read the feedback from
the sellers.
Michael
michael - March 4, 2007 at 1:35 am
Hi all,
I was taken for $500 from seller fashionless on ebay. I was not the only one as I started to get emails of concern from about 5 others who also purchased Ion detox machine from fashionless. This seller is no longer ebay member. I am sure after reading the posts here that I will get absolutely no help from ebay or paypal. I am now in the process of contacting credit card company.
michael - March 4, 2007 at 1:36 am
Hi all,
I was taken for $500 from seller fashionless on ebay. I was not the only one as I started to get emails of concern from about 5 others who also purchased Ion detox machine from fashionless. This seller is no longer ebay member. I am sure after reading the posts here that I will get absolutely no help from ebay or paypal. I am now in the process of contacting credit card company.
Don - March 4, 2007 at 10:44 pm
eBay should protect our information and should not let criminals get out bidding history and our email addresses. I was had by the second chance offer scam and the criminal used a Google email address. Google will not tell me a thing about that address because they are protecting his information. Money Gram will not tell me where the money was picked up because they are protecting his information. WHY DOSE E-BAY NOT PROTECT MY INFORMATION????? Any Ideas???
William Borgstrom - March 6, 2007 at 10:21 pm
Sent 150.00 postal money order to Ron G in Capon Bridge, WV for 12 TROY ounce silver MERCURY DIME. Ad said “THIS IS ONE POUND OF SILVER.” He sent worthless counterfeit as/per Loop Coin of Mobile, Alabama who tested it. His e-mail to me said,”I didn’t advertise it as .999 silver.” E-Bay was NO HELP AT ALL. I didn’t have the postal money order receipt any more and they wouldn’t pursue it. So I guess wire fraud is LEGAL ON E-BAY.
geoff magee - March 8, 2007 at 4:14 pm
I too have been ripped off but it always seems to be by some 3rd party who nhas acessed an innocent persons account. ebay are totally useless in doing anything about it and people should get together and sue them
steven mcmanis - March 15, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Today I was the newest member in ebay fraud. A man put a horse trailer on ebay, sold it to me, with an ebay invoice and the whole nine yards. Ebay told me today that it was all fake and that he had stolen another sellers information to put the item up for bid. I am not an avid ebay user and did not realize that sending the money western union…. to Romania…. where he was “there on business” was unsafe. I asked ebay what there responsibility was since they sent me a “purchase protection and refund” statement and they said they had no responsibility. This seller too had positive feedback and substantial items sold. Now I am out of a few thousand dollars and nothing to show for it. I felt as though I trusted the ebay co. to have enough security that someone as naive as myself could trust the sell at hand. If anyone know’s how to help, please get in touch. The FBI said that there are so many cases that they usually do not even investigate them. I too believe that there should be stronger standards by ebay. They should be held responsible for something instead of the consumer being the one left without a leg to stand on.
Stop Fraud - March 15, 2007 at 6:21 pm
Jason Sandison 95 Lemmen Dr 204-218-6907 or 204-667-7955
Winnipeg, MB R2K 3J7 (204) 667-7955 (204) 218-
6907 Report for online Fraud
Peel Regional Police
Report Number 07-02038 Jason Sandison from 95 Lemmen
Drive Winnipeg, MB CANADA is known by Winnipeg Police
for committing fraud on Ebay. I was taken for $1400 after
I thought I was buying a Dell computer . Jason aka Geoff
Hamel are known by police for taking your money. They
will tell you that their wallets were lost and ID was
comprimised and to wire the funds or send a moeny order
and not Paypal and then you will never receive the goods. If
you have purchased anything from Gifts4all07 or received an
email from Gifts4all@MTS.Net, GeoffHamel@MTS.Net,
jasonsandison@hotmail.com or sandman2@mts.net,
funclubtours@mts.net and allcanadiantours@mts.net Please
speak to Sgt. Molley at the Winnipeg Commerical Crime
Unit at 204-986-3094. Lets all work together to get these
individuals in Jail !!!!!!!!!!
Val - May 28, 2007 at 5:13 pm
Message for “steven mcmanis”. Steven, I was ripped off too by horse trailer on eBay in March. Could you tell me, please, when did you contact the eBay about the fraud (date), and also what are the details of the fraud (was the ebay customer real, did you contact him through eBay or through e-mail, etc.). My email kit_v_kat@hotmail.com so would be great to discuss all that… Thanks!
Tsai - June 17, 2007 at 2:06 am
I was ripped off by Abigail Enriquez who lives in California on April 23, 2007. I bought a Fendi bag from her as a Mother’s day gift for $420. She asked me to pay by cashier check and I was so stupid to do that. However, when I got the bag, I found it was not authentic and I asked for the refund immediately. She asked me to send the bag back and she will issue a refund to me. Until now, I did not receive any refund from her. I raised a dispute from ebay (it didn’t work and ebay did nothing for me) and also sent the mail to ask when she will return my money several times. Finally, I got a mail from her and said, her boyfriend used her account to sell the bag to me and there is nothing related to her. I don’t believe what she said because my cashier check was paid to her. Also, I got a mail from her boyfriend (I’m not sure whether it was really written by her boyfriend) and said, he will not reply any mail from me if I ask when he’s going to refund. If he wants to refund, he will. What a ridiculous person?? I tried to call her several times but she never picked up the phone. I left the messages but she never replied.
Anyway, I’m not a Native American and I’m sorry to use my poor English to say my long long story. I just cannot believe she does not deserve any punishment. Now, I decide never buy anything from ebay again.
I will continue to call her and email her for the refund (these are the only ways I can do now) and I’ll appreciate anyone of you can tell me what else I can do to ask my money back. My email: loveshiho0813@hotmail.com
Thanks.
Tsai
Lee - July 14, 2007 at 3:10 am
I just had a terrible experience with fake clothing on Ebay! I should have known better, but bid on a Marni blouse and necklace from a seller who said I would get a discount for buying both items. I won, and then the items came in the mail…they were so pathetic. The stitching on the blouse is puckered and uneven. The blouse hangs lopsided on the hanger. The fabric is cheap, see-through polyester. The necklace is literally made of plastic beads and gold-colored adhesive tape! The pictures on Ebay were photos of authentic items that do not match the ridiculous junk I got. I am furious with myself for spending money on junk that is so cheap and badly made that it is too embarassing to wear. My advice to anyone considering buying designer clothing on Ebay: beware of any seller who lists information about previous auctions and buyers as “Private.” This allows them to hide details about the fake items sold before, and also does not allow buyers to communicate with each other. I wrote to the seller and asked for a refund, but never heard anything back. Ebay said that since I got items that match description and I do not have proof of non-authenticity from a licensed vendor, I do not have a legitimate claim. I regret flushing my hard-earned money down the toilet. I had only good experiences with Ebay before venturing into buying clothes. I really sympathize with everyone on this site.
alice - August 2, 2007 at 4:00 pm
SALES,
I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE A PRODUCT FROM YOUR,KINDLY LET ME KNOW IF YOU ACCEPT CHEQUE ,KINDLY ALSO LET ME KNOW IF YOU SHIP TO NIGERIA IN LAGOS BY UPS FEDEX AND DHL,IF YOU DO SO,KINDLY FORWARD ME YOUR WEB PAGE,SO THAT I CAN FORWARD YOU THE PRODUCT DETAILS I NEED AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I FORM USA BUT I HAVE MANY STORTE IN AFRICA , I WANT YOUR REPLY IF YOU WANT TO SELL THE ITEMS FOR ME AND YO WILL HELP ME SHIPPING ITEMS TO NIGERIA .
THANKS
alice - August 2, 2007 at 4:16 pm
SALES,
I WOULD LIKE TO PURCHASE A PRODUCT FROM YOUR,KINDLY LET ME KNOW IF YOU ACCEPT CHEQUE ,KINDLY ALSO LET ME KNOW IF YOU SHIP TO NIGERIA IN LAGOS BY UPS FEDEX AND DHL,IF YOU DO SO,KINDLY FORWARD ME YOUR WEB PAGE,SO THAT I CAN FORWARD YOU THE PRODUCT DETAILS I NEED AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I FORM USA BUT I HAVE MANY STORTE IN AFRICA , I WANT YOUR REPLY IF YOU WANT TO SELL THE ITEMS FOR ME AND YO WILL HELP ME SHIPPING ITEMS TO NIGERIA .
THANKS
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