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	<title>Comments on: Wikipedia Irony: Jimmy Wales Edits His Own Entry</title>
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		<title>By: Timothy Scriven</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/wikipedia_irony.html/comment-page-1#comment-61296</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Scriven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2006 11:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While minor edits to a page would be okay, larger edits are a bit tricker. As a rule I&#039;d say you should avoid edits that might be in some way connected with your reputation, but I can&#039;t see an arguement against, say, a scientist or philosopher correcting a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of one of their theories.

An intresting question, could one get a court order to stop wikipedia hosting an articile on you, if you could prove that the articiles created were consistently libelous? ( I know you couldn&#039;t sue them, as writers on the web don&#039;t count as publishers, but this might be a little different.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While minor edits to a page would be okay, larger edits are a bit tricker. As a rule I&#8217;d say you should avoid edits that might be in some way connected with your reputation, but I can&#8217;t see an arguement against, say, a scientist or philosopher correcting a misrepresentation or misunderstanding of one of their theories.</p>
<p>An intresting question, could one get a court order to stop wikipedia hosting an articile on you, if you could prove that the articiles created were consistently libelous? ( I know you couldn&#8217;t sue them, as writers on the web don&#8217;t count as publishers, but this might be a little different.)</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn.  Who cares?  He wants to maintain his reputation?  What corporation doesn&#039;t do that?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn.  Who cares?  He wants to maintain his reputation?  What corporation doesn&#8217;t do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/wikipedia_irony.html/comment-page-1#comment-61294</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone who self-edits non-defamatory aspects of a Wiki really needs to get a life.  So an entry is not &quot;nuanced&quot; enough...  Who really cares?  Mom?

To self-edit is really amusing, since the self-editor is writing under the (mistaken) impression that someone actually cares to pour over every detail of the subject&#039;s life.  (&quot;Oh, my.  He grew up in SoHo.  I never know that.  Wow.)  That in itself in an act of narcissim.  Excluding a few celebrities and government officials, I can&#039;t think of anyone important enough to self-edit.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone who self-edits non-defamatory aspects of a Wiki really needs to get a life.  So an entry is not &#8220;nuanced&#8221; enough&#8230;  Who really cares?  Mom?</p>
<p>To self-edit is really amusing, since the self-editor is writing under the (mistaken) impression that someone actually cares to pour over every detail of the subject&#8217;s life.  (&#8221;Oh, my.  He grew up in SoHo.  I never know that.  Wow.)  That in itself in an act of narcissim.  Excluding a few celebrities and government officials, I can&#8217;t think of anyone important enough to self-edit.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Solove</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/wikipedia_irony.html/comment-page-1#comment-61293</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Solove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is relatively easy for people to work around a do-not-edit-self restriction -- just have a friend do the editing.

It would seem to be more honest for Wales to just edit himself (and for people to see that he, in fact, was the one editing), than for him to get some friend or employee to do it for him.  If the former, people could assess the information in light of the potential self-interest; in the latter, people have little ability to assess it.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is relatively easy for people to work around a do-not-edit-self restriction &#8212; just have a friend do the editing.</p>
<p>It would seem to be more honest for Wales to just edit himself (and for people to see that he, in fact, was the one editing), than for him to get some friend or employee to do it for him.  If the former, people could assess the information in light of the potential self-interest; in the latter, people have little ability to assess it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;One the other hand, who knows better about Jimmy Wales than Jimmy Wales? &lt;/i&gt;

Eh, well, that&#039;s the issue about self-editing, isn&#039;t it?  Many of us have inflated views about ourselves, and are quick to minimize the contributions other&#039;s had in our success.  We tend to view minor obstacles we&#039;ve overcome in life as having been nearly insurmountable.  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve met a person who can &quot;objectively&quot; apprise himself.  Most of us are unduly down on ourselves, or up on ourselves.  Anyhow, that someone would be compelled to edit a Wikipedia entry about himself might indicate some levels of narcissim.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One the other hand, who knows better about Jimmy Wales than Jimmy Wales? </i></p>
<p>Eh, well, that&#8217;s the issue about self-editing, isn&#8217;t it?  Many of us have inflated views about ourselves, and are quick to minimize the contributions other&#8217;s had in our success.  We tend to view minor obstacles we&#8217;ve overcome in life as having been nearly insurmountable.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve met a person who can &#8220;objectively&#8221; apprise himself.  Most of us are unduly down on ourselves, or up on ourselves.  Anyhow, that someone would be compelled to edit a Wikipedia entry about himself might indicate some levels of narcissim.</p>
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		<title>By: John Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;who knows better about Jimmy Wales than Jimmy Wales?&lt;/i&gt;

You already rebutted this point when you mentioned self-interest.  Go back and read &lt;i&gt;Huis Clos&lt;/i&gt; (&lt;i&gt;No Exit&lt;/i&gt;) again: the only way we can know ourselves is as reflected in other people.  Jimmy Wales (and anyone else, for that matter) &lt;i&gt;cannot&lt;/i&gt; know himself objectively.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>who knows better about Jimmy Wales than Jimmy Wales?</i></p>
<p>You already rebutted this point when you mentioned self-interest.  Go back and read <i>Huis Clos</i> (<i>No Exit</i>) again: the only way we can know ourselves is as reflected in other people.  Jimmy Wales (and anyone else, for that matter) <i>cannot</i> know himself objectively.</p>
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