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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/freakonomics_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-61346</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 05:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The University of Chicago an average college? Watch it Prince, your education is showing......

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The University of Chicago an average college? Watch it Prince, your education is showing&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Student News Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/freakonomics_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-61347</link>
		<dc:creator>Student News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 15:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Growing future college students&lt;/strong&gt;

They&#039;re busy finishing homework, listening to a story, playing games and talking to tutors in their after-school program at the Packer Community Learning Center.   By the time these grade-schoolers finish high school, their tutors hope, they&#039;ll be read...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Growing future college students</strong></p>
<p>They&#8217;re busy finishing homework, listening to a story, playing games and talking to tutors in their after-school program at the Packer Community Learning Center.   By the time these grade-schoolers finish high school, their tutors hope, they&#8217;ll be read&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Akbar</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/freakonomics_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-61345</link>
		<dc:creator>Prince Akbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 04:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone tell me what is it about Rebecca that justifies calling her true &quot;competition&quot; to Dr. Pinkett.  She was 1-2.  He was 3-0 on the show.  She has a BA degree from an average college University of Chicago. He has 5 degrees including 3 from one of the toughtest colleges in the world, MIT.  She has 2 years work experience. He has 13 years experience as an entreprenuer, the most recent ventures is a multimillion dollar consulting firm.  She broke an ankle that heals. He lost a grandparent FOREVER.  Why all the sympathy for such a below average, sub par, barely out of college simpleton? Also, Trump boasts about her loyalty to Toral. Yet he said nothing of Kwame&#039;s loyalty to Omarossa?  Double Standards. He also fired 4 people for not rising a dime of money, and he acts kind to her after she raised NOTHING for charity!  Had Dr. Pinkett been white, and Rebecca been black, this would not even be a conversation right now.  Funny what race believes in handouts now.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone tell me what is it about Rebecca that justifies calling her true &#8220;competition&#8221; to Dr. Pinkett.  She was 1-2.  He was 3-0 on the show.  She has a BA degree from an average college University of Chicago. He has 5 degrees including 3 from one of the toughtest colleges in the world, MIT.  She has 2 years work experience. He has 13 years experience as an entreprenuer, the most recent ventures is a multimillion dollar consulting firm.  She broke an ankle that heals. He lost a grandparent FOREVER.  Why all the sympathy for such a below average, sub par, barely out of college simpleton? Also, Trump boasts about her loyalty to Toral. Yet he said nothing of Kwame&#8217;s loyalty to Omarossa?  Double Standards. He also fired 4 people for not rising a dime of money, and he acts kind to her after she raised NOTHING for charity!  Had Dr. Pinkett been white, and Rebecca been black, this would not even be a conversation right now.  Funny what race believes in handouts now.</p>
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		<title>By: ray</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/freakonomics_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-61344</link>
		<dc:creator>ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all private colleges and universities are subsidized by tax dollars as well.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all private colleges and universities are subsidized by tax dollars as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/freakonomics_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-61343</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SupplySider, should they have cameras in the bathrooms too?  After all, your tax dollars paid for those bathrooms.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SupplySider, should they have cameras in the bathrooms too?  After all, your tax dollars paid for those bathrooms.</p>
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		<title>By: SupplySider</title>
		<link>http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2005/12/freakonomics_th.html/comment-page-1#comment-61342</link>
		<dc:creator>SupplySider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see the law carve out an exception for students who attend public universities. When tax dollars subsidize students&#039; tuition and pay directly for capital improvements to and operating expenses of the schools, student grades should be a matter of public record.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see the law carve out an exception for students who attend public universities. When tax dollars subsidize students&#8217; tuition and pay directly for capital improvements to and operating expenses of the schools, student grades should be a matter of public record.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Solove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Solove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 07:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon prof,

That&#039;s a tough question.  It would seem that most students would consent to being praised as a top student, and in the case you indicate, it could help the student out in her career.  Perhaps the best thing to do is to indicate that the student was an excellent student but not reveal the student&#039;s grade.  This might strike some as a bit formalistic -- that it&#039;s ok to say that a student was a great student in your opinion but not ok to reveal the specific grade the student received.  But I think there is a difference.  A professor&#039;s opinion about a student is different from a grade, which is a formal entry on the student&#039;s record.

There&#039;s also a difference, I believe, between your scenario, in which the context seems to justify the assumption of implied consent, and the disclosure of a grade on a widely-read blog.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon prof,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a tough question.  It would seem that most students would consent to being praised as a top student, and in the case you indicate, it could help the student out in her career.  Perhaps the best thing to do is to indicate that the student was an excellent student but not reveal the student&#8217;s grade.  This might strike some as a bit formalistic &#8212; that it&#8217;s ok to say that a student was a great student in your opinion but not ok to reveal the specific grade the student received.  But I think there is a difference.  A professor&#8217;s opinion about a student is different from a grade, which is a formal entry on the student&#8217;s record.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a difference, I believe, between your scenario, in which the context seems to justify the assumption of implied consent, and the disclosure of a grade on a widely-read blog.</p>
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		<title>By: anon prof</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon prof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about this one.  You meet a practicing lawyer who says, &quot;hey, your student Sally Smith interned with us this summer.  She did terrific.&quot;  I always have the urge to tout my good students but feel that I can&#039;t say &quot;she earned a top grade,&quot; even though I assume that the law firm already has her transcript and that she&#039;s readily approve of my making that comment.  So I don&#039;t mention that.

What&#039;s your instinct on this, Dan?  In that situation, is there implied consent if my comment would be strongly positive?  I err on the side of caution but feel bad about tempering my praise.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about this one.  You meet a practicing lawyer who says, &#8220;hey, your student Sally Smith interned with us this summer.  She did terrific.&#8221;  I always have the urge to tout my good students but feel that I can&#8217;t say &#8220;she earned a top grade,&#8221; even though I assume that the law firm already has her transcript and that she&#8217;s readily approve of my making that comment.  So I don&#8217;t mention that.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s your instinct on this, Dan?  In that situation, is there implied consent if my comment would be strongly positive?  I err on the side of caution but feel bad about tempering my praise.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 22:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s theoretically a violation of FERPA, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode20/usc_sec_20_00001232---g000-.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;20 U.S.C. sec. 1232g(b)&lt;/a&gt;, but only if part of a &quot;pattern or practice&quot; by the educational institution; one post by one professor seems unlikely to qualify.  There is no private cause of action for violations; enforcement is limited to cutting federal funds, and is left to the Secretary of Education: &quot;The Secretary shall take appropriate actions to enforce this section and to deal with violations of this section, in accordance with this chapter, except that action to terminate assistance may be taken only if the Secretary finds there has been a failure to comply with this section, and he has determined that compliance cannot be secured by voluntary means.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s theoretically a violation of FERPA, <a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode20/usc_sec_20_00001232---g000-.html" rel="nofollow">20 U.S.C. sec. 1232g(b)</a>, but only if part of a &#8220;pattern or practice&#8221; by the educational institution; one post by one professor seems unlikely to qualify.  There is no private cause of action for violations; enforcement is limited to cutting federal funds, and is left to the Secretary of Education: &#8220;The Secretary shall take appropriate actions to enforce this section and to deal with violations of this section, in accordance with this chapter, except that action to terminate assistance may be taken only if the Secretary finds there has been a failure to comply with this section, and he has determined that compliance cannot be secured by voluntary means.&#8221;</p>
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