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		<title>By: Student News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Student News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Man sentenced in traffic deaths of two college students&lt;/strong&gt;

ST. JOHNS, Mich. A Lansing man has been sentenced to between 15 and 25 years in prison for second-degree murder in the traffic deaths of two college students.  Gerardo Garcia was driving the wrong way in the northbound lanes of U-S 127 about three a-m ...

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<p>ST. JOHNS, Mich. A Lansing man has been sentenced to between 15 and 25 years in prison for second-degree murder in the traffic deaths of two college students.  Gerardo Garcia was driving the wrong way in the northbound lanes of U-S 127 about three a-m &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Miana Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miana Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2005 21:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WoW!!! nice nice one..hhehe bye later may God be with u.

peace out!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WoW!!! nice nice one..hhehe bye later may God be with u.</p>
<p>peace out!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teaching a large classroom is undeniably public speaking, though many professors seem to think it&#039;s something else.  Indeed, certain law professors are regularly invited to debate or give speeches at other law schools.  I suspect those same professors receive high student evaluation rankings.

Good public speakers try to have a conversation (pretentiously called a &quot;horizontal dialogue&quot;) with people.  People like being talked to, rather than being talked at.  I hope no one is surprised by this finding, which applies to other forms of speaking.

Wasn&#039;t it said of John Roberts that as an oral advocate, he didn&#039;t lecture anyone, but instead treated every oral argument as a conversation?  And aren&#039;t the best trial lawyers those who, to the extent possible, treat juries like they&#039;re part of the conversation?

Maybe professors would benefit from a course in a public speaking.  Maybe the secret to being a good classroom professor is no secret it at all: good professors are just good public speakers.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teaching a large classroom is undeniably public speaking, though many professors seem to think it&#8217;s something else.  Indeed, certain law professors are regularly invited to debate or give speeches at other law schools.  I suspect those same professors receive high student evaluation rankings.</p>
<p>Good public speakers try to have a conversation (pretentiously called a &#8220;horizontal dialogue&#8221;) with people.  People like being talked to, rather than being talked at.  I hope no one is surprised by this finding, which applies to other forms of speaking.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t it said of John Roberts that as an oral advocate, he didn&#8217;t lecture anyone, but instead treated every oral argument as a conversation?  And aren&#8217;t the best trial lawyers those who, to the extent possible, treat juries like they&#8217;re part of the conversation?</p>
<p>Maybe professors would benefit from a course in a public speaking.  Maybe the secret to being a good classroom professor is no secret it at all: good professors are just good public speakers.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things.

1) The worst thing any lecturer can do is start class by saying that we will be ending early, and then proceed to drone on for entire class.  If a law professor had clients, he would know it&#039;s all about setting (and meeting) expectations.

2) The Socratic method is bogus and a waste of time, particularly for sophisticated students who already know how to discuss and debate.  Maybe it&#039;s useful to scare some unprepared 21-year olds.   But that&#039;s about it.

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<p>1) The worst thing any lecturer can do is start class by saying that we will be ending early, and then proceed to drone on for entire class.  If a law professor had clients, he would know it&#8217;s all about setting (and meeting) expectations.</p>
<p>2) The Socratic method is bogus and a waste of time, particularly for sophisticated students who already know how to discuss and debate.  Maybe it&#8217;s useful to scare some unprepared 21-year olds.   But that&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas Gomez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomas Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, when you call on someone who is unprepared, you can use the line one of my professors used to use:  &quot;Maybe you should re-read it....or....read it.&quot;  Then move on.  :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, when you call on someone who is unprepared, you can use the line one of my professors used to use:  &#8220;Maybe you should re-read it&#8230;.or&#8230;.read it.&#8221;  Then move on.  <img src='http://www.concurringopinions.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you really want to improve legal education, when you&#039;ve called on someone who is deeply unprepared and incapable of answering the qestion, don&#039;t waste time torturing them (and the rest of the class).  Just move on to someone else who might be able to answer the question.  That&#039;s my biggest complaint in law school: when the professor calls on some ass who clearly doesn&#039;t care and will just be happy as a lark with a C- and just bogs everything else down by not going on.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you really want to improve legal education, when you&#8217;ve called on someone who is deeply unprepared and incapable of answering the qestion, don&#8217;t waste time torturing them (and the rest of the class).  Just move on to someone else who might be able to answer the question.  That&#8217;s my biggest complaint in law school: when the professor calls on some ass who clearly doesn&#8217;t care and will just be happy as a lark with a C- and just bogs everything else down by not going on.</p>
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