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	<title>Comments on: Legal Realism and Fashion Consulting: A Misunderstood Relation?</title>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>today a judge in calif. ruled that when a person is on probation gives your address . the police can search your home at any time without your concent. even when they have never lived at the address

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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>today a judge in calif. ruled that when a person is on probation gives your address . the police can search your home at any time without your concent. even when they have never lived at the address

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		<title>By: Klaralee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaralee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 02:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently writing a paper on this topic and was wondering if anyone has any statistical info regarding the effects of dress on a person&#039;s case, or even some generic numerical data on how dress can effect the courts decision.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently writing a paper on this topic and was wondering if anyone has any statistical info regarding the effects of dress on a person&#8217;s case, or even some generic numerical data on how dress can effect the courts decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got a speeding ticket last year and went to court to try to avoid the insurance penalty. I had heard that one should always dress nicely for court, so I wore a suit and tie. No big deal. I found I was a distinct minority in the courtroom (if not the only one). The ticket was reduced to 5 over from 15, but the judge told me that because I was respecting his courtroom, by coming in a suit, he was remanding all court costs. There was quite a murmuring going on in the gallery as I left.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a speeding ticket last year and went to court to try to avoid the insurance penalty. I had heard that one should always dress nicely for court, so I wore a suit and tie. No big deal. I found I was a distinct minority in the courtroom (if not the only one). The ticket was reduced to 5 over from 15, but the judge told me that because I was respecting his courtroom, by coming in a suit, he was remanding all court costs. There was quite a murmuring going on in the gallery as I left.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: I&#039;ve gotta tell my absolute favorite civilian-dress-in-court story here.  I was working for a legal aid office, and we were in court on a domestic violence restraining order (representing the victim, natch.).  The defendant came into the hearing wearing ... I kid you not ... a &lt;i&gt;wife beater&lt;/i&gt;.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: I&#8217;ve gotta tell my absolute favorite civilian-dress-in-court story here.  I was working for a legal aid office, and we were in court on a domestic violence restraining order (representing the victim, natch.).  The defendant came into the hearing wearing &#8230; I kid you not &#8230; a <i>wife beater</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfred Brophy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfred Brophy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

very interesting on Molloy&#039;s book and the race discrimination claim.  I hadn&#039;t seen that before, though I&#039;m not surprised given the content.  The 1975 version (which is what I was reading) is antiquated.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>very interesting on Molloy&#8217;s book and the race discrimination claim.  I hadn&#8217;t seen that before, though I&#8217;m not surprised given the content.  The 1975 version (which is what I was reading) is antiquated.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d not believe how many defendants wear trashy (though, frequently expensive) clothing in front of judges.  If a defendant wears a suit to court, he usually will be mistaken for a lawyer.

Anyhow, the whole &quot;how to dress in court&quot; tends to show why people get into trouble.  What kind of parent doesn&#039;t have the sense to tell his kid to dress up for court.  (And that &quot;dressing up&quot; doesn&#039;t mean having pants hanging off one&#039;s arse.)  Of course, the answer is: There isn&#039;t a parent, or if there is a parent, it&#039;s not a very good one.

By looking at the way someone dresses in court, we can learn a lot about the person&#039;s background.  It&#039;s very sad, actually, to think that some things most of us take for granted (re: how to dress up) is something a large segment of society never learns.  What else aren&#039;t they learning at home?  What kind of school system fails to teach kids these things?  (Hey, if we gave poor parents a choice, and let them send their kids to Catholic school, at least the kid would learn how to dress appropriately.)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d not believe how many defendants wear trashy (though, frequently expensive) clothing in front of judges.  If a defendant wears a suit to court, he usually will be mistaken for a lawyer.</p>
<p>Anyhow, the whole &#8220;how to dress in court&#8221; tends to show why people get into trouble.  What kind of parent doesn&#8217;t have the sense to tell his kid to dress up for court.  (And that &#8220;dressing up&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean having pants hanging off one&#8217;s arse.)  Of course, the answer is: There isn&#8217;t a parent, or if there is a parent, it&#8217;s not a very good one.</p>
<p>By looking at the way someone dresses in court, we can learn a lot about the person&#8217;s background.  It&#8217;s very sad, actually, to think that some things most of us take for granted (re: how to dress up) is something a large segment of society never learns.  What else aren&#8217;t they learning at home?  What kind of school system fails to teach kids these things?  (Hey, if we gave poor parents a choice, and let them send their kids to Catholic school, at least the kid would learn how to dress appropriately.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gowder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, one relationship between law and fashion: Molloy&#039;s book has been the subject of &lt;a href=&quot;http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/PHRC/legal/finalorders/200027223.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at least one successful race discrimination claim&lt;/a&gt; (pdf, but check out the crap in there!  I especially like xviii on page 10 of the pdf)...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, one relationship between law and fashion: Molloy&#8217;s book has been the subject of <a href="http://sites.state.pa.us/PA_Exec/PHRC/legal/finalorders/200027223.pdf" rel="nofollow">at least one successful race discrimination claim</a> (pdf, but check out the crap in there!  I especially like xviii on page 10 of the pdf)&#8230;</p>
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